My Vision 260

[michmash/eddie]

I have recently moved house and managed to get myself a vision 260 at a good price. I sold a trigon 350 and ever since was kicking myself.

Anyway time to start a new journal, the tank has been set up for a month now, i done a fishless cycle and have added gravel, loads of bogwood, i just need some plants now.

I am really struggling however to find suitable tank mates to go with what i have:

4 x green terrors
1 x jaguar cichlid
1 x unknown that i will need help to identify
3 x crabs

the green terrors are going to be a problm, i can either rehome 3 to my mate who works at a local aquatics centre now or wait untill we can tell what sex they are and keep one sex only as these can be a nightmare when they breed. The last lot i had in an old tank killed everything to protect the fry.


i know cant fit a lot more in once some of the green terrors are rehomed, but what can i get in? i need a nice l number plec, and what other fish?

pics will be up tomorrow, sorry to waffle, very rushed

 

[always4lora]

I'd remove the Jag as when full grown will be a little large for the tank plus most likely aggresive. GT's will be alright singly or possible a few females but even then you can always get a 'nutter' fish, you'd need some pretty kick #16##### filterations for this though

 

[Wills]

Have to agree with above and just enforce what he is saying at a 260 you are looking at 70ish gallons so I would say have the Jag as a wet pet and thats it or have one of the GTs as a wet pet all those fish in that tank are not an option IMO.

Also mixing crabs with fish is usually a no no as well.

If you can post a pic of your mystery fish that would help a lot, if your not opposed to swapping your fish round a fair bit there are quite a lot of alternatives especially for the GTs.

But my honest advice at the moment is just to rehome everything and start from scratch as soon as some of these start to hit maturity you will have a blood bath on your hands in such a small tank for the fish. I guess the other option would be to get a bigger tank somewhere in the region of a 6x2x2 might be able to handle all those at adult size but you might get a few problems even then.

Wills

 

[england]

agreed with everything said,jags grow big, males obtain 16+inches, females around 12+inches,aggressive,suddenly one day all hell breaks loose,truse me ive done it, your tanks way to small for all that stock,One green terror might surfice a tank that size, sorry bud but a warning is needed...

have a look at the link...

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/212788-jaguar-cichlid/

 

[michmash/eddie]

thanks for all the advice, i really appreciate it.

all fish are being rehomed to my local aquatics centre this afternoon, so i can start from scratch, so recommendations would be great for fish to keep. I want to stick with cichlids.

I have seen one kind that i really like the look of, Satanoperca Jurupari and Gymnogeophagus Balzanii.

towards the bottom of the link posted by weil92

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/234064-members-new-world-cichlids/

i would like to have approx 8 to 10 fish in the tank,

thanks again

 

[michmash/eddie]

oh, i forgot to mention, i love my GT's and was wandering if it is at all possible to keep at least 1 in this tank with other cichlid?

 

[minxfishy]

If you want to keep a single GT, then you can, but not with other cichlids, they just wont accept them and will likely kill them, you could keep them with some fast dither/target fish, for example giant danios and then a syndontis species for the bottom and thats about it.

Satanoperca species are out too if you have gravel, they like the geophagus species are earth eaters and therefore require sand, as they search for food, by sifting through the substate, they would get gravel caught in their gills which will damage them and can lead to death. Also Satanoperca species, particulary daemons, are very water quality senstive and do not do well in newly set up tanks, they also require a minimum of a 50% weekly water change, I personally used to do 2 x 50% water changes with mine, if the water quality drops, they are prone to neo-tropical bloat. They do need to be in groups also, minimum of 4, preferably 6 and some reach 10" or so.

For cichlids, consider something like the aequidens species, for example, aequidens coeruleopunctatus, aequidens pulcher, aequidens diadema, the pulcher (blue acara) in particular very similar to GT's (aequidens rivulatus) but far less aggressive and able to accept tankmates.

Other species you could have could be, Rainbow cichlids, flag cichlids, festivums, Sajica, convicts (although again these can when breeding be aggressive) Hounduron red points, or Thorichthys species - Meeki (otherwise known as firemouth) Ellioti or Aureus.


Most of those mentioned you could easily mix or keep a couple of each, alongside, bottom dwellers and also tetra/barb/rainbowfish for example.

Hope some of that helps.

 

[michmash/eddie]

thanks for the advice,

all fish have now been re-homed and i have decided to go for malawi cichlids