My Guppy Seems Dead Then Starts Going Crazy.....

[FWFishLover]

Hi, today i went to the store and bought some fish and added them to my 20g with a swordtail already in.
i added:
3 fancy blue guppies
2 dalmatian mollies
2 albino cories (i plan on getting 2-3 more)

anyways i got home and did a 25% water change and added 2 tablespoons of aquarium salt.
then i put the bags with the fish in to sit for 20 min.
after that i open the bags and netted the fish out (i didnt add the store's water)
so thus the fish were in the aquarium.
about 5-6 hours later i was watching my aquarium and noticed only 2 guppies so i looked around in the tank and saw it (what seemed to be) stuck to the part of the filter that sucks in water. so i took my net and scraped it off. then it swam normally unhurt and not ripped at all.
so i left my room real quick and about 1 min later when i came back it was on the filter AGAIN.
So I once again scraped it off and it swam normally again.
about 1 min. later it fell to the bottom of the tank. it looked dead (it was lying on the gravel without movement).
so then i tried to examine the gils and see if it was still breathing when all of a sudden it jumped up to the top of the tank and started swimming aroung extremely quick and was doing flips and barrel rolls as well as jumping out and in the water like a dolphin. so i was very alert and decided it was dead finally when it all of a sudden did it again.
now as i type its laying on the gravel appearing dead again then jumping up and frantically swim again and again taking 30 sec breaks in between.
i have no idea what couldve happened, my best guess is that it already had a disease at the LFS because the other fish are perfectly fine.

 

[WILDER]

Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.


You should add tank water to the bag water. I would do a search on climatising new fish.
Always test ph and temp so you know how long to climatise for.

it could be ph shock.

pH Shock
As its name suggests this condition occurs when a fish is introduced to quickly into a new environment which has a very different pH from the one it came from, when the pH is adjusted to quickly and the fish have little or no time to adjust themselves, or when the pH is to far outside the fishes normal rangeI
t is very important that any change in water chemistry is made slowly and fish should never be exposed to changes of pH greater than 0.5 of one unit on the pH scale in either direction.
Avoidance is by far the best solution because in most cases the symptoms don't appear until the second or third day by which time the damage has been done and the fish will probably die.<br /><br />A fish suffering from this condition will show all the typical signs of shock.
Lying on the bottom and paying little or no attention to its surroundings and ignoring potential threats.It may even lay on its side or go upside down completely.There could be other signs to, related to Acidosis and Alkalosis. Excessive mucus production. Rapid breathing. Swollen abdomen. (Alkalosis only).If the condition is allowed to go on for one or two days then the chances of a successful remedy are greatly reduced because a lot of damage will have taken place.
If the symptoms are spotted early enough there are a couple of things that will help.
Begin to return the pH to the original pH in steps of 0.4 of one unit on the pH scale and allow 3 hrs in between the adjustments. Make these adjustments until the pH is returned to a safe and satisfactory level.
Treat the tank with a broad spectrum anti-Bacteria/Fungus compound to prevent secondary infections of the Skin and Gills.
Prevention is easy.
A successful treatment isn't PH SHOCK LINK<br />http/groups.msn.com/FishHealth/phshock.msnw<br />http/puffernet.tripod.com/

 

[VaegaVic]

Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.


You should add tank water to the bag water. I would do a search on climatising new fish.
Always test ph and temp so you know how long to climatise for.

it could be ph shock.

pH Shock
As its name suggests this condition occurs when a fish is introduced to quickly into a new environment which has a very different pH from the one it came from, when the pH is adjusted to quickly and the fish have little or no time to adjust themselves, or when the pH is to far outside the fishes normal rangeI
t is very important that any change in water chemistry is made slowly and fish should never be exposed to changes of pH greater than 0.5 of one unit on the pH scale in either direction.
Avoidance is by far the best solution because in most cases the symptoms don't appear until the second or third day by which time the damage has been done and the fish will probably die.<br /><br />A fish suffering from this condition will show all the typical signs of shock.
Lying on the bottom and paying little or no attention to its surroundings and ignoring potential threats.It may even lay on its side or go upside down completely.There could be other signs to, related to Acidosis and Alkalosis. Excessive mucus production. Rapid breathing. Swollen abdomen. (Alkalosis only).If the condition is allowed to go on for one or two days then the chances of a successful remedy are greatly reduced because a lot of damage will have taken place.
If the symptoms are spotted early enough there are a couple of things that will help.
Begin to return the pH to the original pH in steps of 0.4 of one unit on the pH scale and allow 3 hrs in between the adjustments. Make these adjustments until the pH is returned to a safe and satisfactory level.
Treat the tank with a broad spectrum anti-Bacteria/Fungus compound to prevent secondary infections of the Skin and Gills.
Prevention is easy.
A successful treatment isn't PH SHOCK LINK<br />http/groups.msn.com/FishHealth/phshock.msnw<br />http/puffernet.tripod.com/

Firstly, I never advise adding store water directly to the tank, if the store is in your local area, it should have the exact same water anyway, obviously baring speacilists such as malawis.
I've always advised that people add water from their own tank into the bag for about 30 mins, at about 5mls every minute.

Also, I thought Hardiness shock was more dangerous than pH shock as fish go through massive pH swings in the wild every day.