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What medication can i get access to in Australia that will kill this problem,?

i have some metro here im wondering if i should dose the tanks with metro tablets? as metro is used for inernal parisites?
 
I would hold off adding anymore meds with using the clout.
Give it two weeks and if no weight gain you might need to use another med.
After using internal parasites med you have to back up with a bacterial med.
 
Metro-Med is a krill based food that contains Metronidazole and an antibiotic used for treating Hexamita (hole in the head)
 
Depending on how quickly the fish are losing weight will determine what the problem is likely to be. If the fish have taken a month or more to lose weight then it is probably intestinal worms, (tapeworms or threadworms). If the fish are losing weight quickly, within a week or two, then it is probably an internal infection like Hexamita.
The fact that it seems to be spreading from tank to tank, and the catfish has stringy white poo, would probably indicate an internal bacterial or protozoan infection. Metronidazole (Flagyl) should work on this type of problem but the medication will need to be used for at least a week, preferably 2 weeks. It will also wipe out the filter bacteria so you will need to do daily water changes to keep the ammonia levels down. Tolak should be able to give you an accurate dose rate for this medication.

If you started using Clout and it appears to be working, you should continue treating the fish until they are cured, or as often as the directions state. If you stop treatment before the fish are cured, the disease can come back and be harder to cure. You are also more likely to cause drug resistant organisms because any pathogens that have been exposed to the medication and survived, will pass their immunity to the drug, onto their offspring, (when they divide or reproduce).

Any fish with the problem will probably have released bacterial/ parasitic spores in the tank they were kept in. Therefore you should either treat the tanks as well as the fish. Or move the fish into a clean tank for treatment and disinfect the other tanks.
A mild bleach solution (not sure on dose rates but about 10% is common) can be used to disinfect the tanks. It is a good idea to drain the tank and refill it several times before bleaching. You also want to gravel clean the tanks and clean the filters. Then wipe down the inside of the tanks to get rid of the algae and slime on the glass, rocks and ornaments. The less gunk in the tank the more effectively the bleach will work.

Tapeworms can be treated with Praziquantel. Use 100mg of Praziquantel per 20litres of water. Do a water change 24hours later. Then repeat the treatment a week later.

Levamisole Hydrochloride can be used to treat Camallanus threadworms. Depending on the concentration of Levamisole will determine the dose rate. Camallanus will show up as little red hair like things hanging out the fish's bum.

Other intestinal worms need different medications, most of which we can't get in Australia without a vet prescription. Flubenol is available in the states and treats all intestinal worms but I’m not sure if it’s available in Oz.
If you are losing fish from the problem, then take one of the sickest ones you have to a fish vet or gov run animal health lab and get the fish autopsied. They will be able to tell you what is causing the problem and give you an appropriate treatment.
 
Depending on how quickly the fish are losing weight will determine what the problem is likely to be. If the fish have taken a month or more to lose weight then it is probably intestinal worms, (tapeworms or threadworms). If the fish are losing weight quickly, within a week or two, then it is probably an internal infection like Hexamita.
The fact that it seems to be spreading from tank to tank, and the catfish has stringy white poo, would probably indicate an internal bacterial or protozoan infection. Metronidazole (Flagyl) should work on this type of problem but the medication will need to be used for at least a week, preferably 2 weeks. It will also wipe out the filter bacteria so you will need to do daily water changes to keep the ammonia levels down. Tolak should be able to give you an accurate dose rate for this medication.

If you started using Clout and it appears to be working, you should continue treating the fish until they are cured, or as often as the directions state. If you stop treatment before the fish are cured, the disease can come back and be harder to cure. You are also more likely to cause drug resistant organisms because any pathogens that have been exposed to the medication and survived, will pass their immunity to the drug, onto their offspring, (when they divide or reproduce).

Any fish with the problem will probably have released bacterial/ parasitic spores in the tank they were kept in. Therefore you should either treat the tanks as well as the fish. Or move the fish into a clean tank for treatment and disinfect the other tanks.
A mild bleach solution (not sure on dose rates but about 10% is common) can be used to disinfect the tanks. It is a good idea to drain the tank and refill it several times before bleaching. You also want to gravel clean the tanks and clean the filters. Then wipe down the inside of the tanks to get rid of the algae and slime on the glass, rocks and ornaments. The less gunk in the tank the more effectively the bleach will work.

Tapeworms can be treated with Praziquantel. Use 100mg of Praziquantel per 20litres of water. Do a water change 24hours later. Then repeat the treatment a week later.

Levamisole Hydrochloride can be used to treat Camallanus threadworms. Depending on the concentration of Levamisole will determine the dose rate. Camallanus will show up as little red hair like things hanging out the fish's bum.

Other intestinal worms need different medications, most of which we can't get in Australia without a vet prescription. Flubenol is available in the states and treats all intestinal worms but I’m not sure if it’s available in Oz.
If you are losing fish from the problem, then take one of the sickest ones you have to a fish vet or gov run animal health lab and get the fish autopsied. They will be able to tell you what is causing the problem and give you an appropriate treatment.

the fish lost weight very quickly and died very slowly!

do u know a vet i can call to tell me what todo? and there number wpuld be great if u have it on hand please.

im sure i have the wasting disease! :(
 
If you ring your local vet they should be able to tell you who specialises in fish. Otherwise ask your local fish shop if they know any fish vets in the area. Unfortunately I am on the other side of the country so can’t offer advice on vets in your area.

Drying the tanks out will kill most fish diseases especially if it gets hot and they are in the sun. However, glass aquariums can crack if left out in the sun and they are resting on a surface that prevents air flowing around them, (the base is the most common part to crack). It's unlikely to happen at this time of year but raising the tank off the ground will usually prevent this from happening.

Wasting disease (Tuberculosis) will survive a drying period. However, TB doesn't normally cause fish to go skinny very quickly. In fact most rift lake cichlids, rainbowfish, etc that are suffering from TB don't lose weight at all if they are well fed. TB also takes months to kill fish and you lose one here and one there. You don't start losing large numbers in a very short space of time.

Hexamita and Coccidiosis will cause fish to go skinny very quickly, as will most internal bacterial & protozoan infections. If you can get hold of Metronidazole (Flagyl) then that should treat most of these internal problems. You usually require a vet to prescribe Flagyl, but there might be medications around that contain it. Check out "Waterlife Octozin" and something called "Hexamit", (I'm not sure who makes Hexamit but if you ask the local fish shop they might have heard of it). Those medications might contain Metronidazole.
Tolak uses the drug to treat his angelfish and can offer you advise on how much to use.
 
If you ring your local vet they should be able to tell you who specialises in fish. Otherwise ask your local fish shop if they know any fish vets in the area. Unfortunately I am on the other side of the country so can’t offer advice on vets in your area.

Drying the tanks out will kill most fish diseases especially if it gets hot and they are in the sun. However, glass aquariums can crack if left out in the sun and they are resting on a surface that prevents air flowing around them, (the base is the most common part to crack). It's unlikely to happen at this time of year but raising the tank off the ground will usually prevent this from happening.

Wasting disease (Tuberculosis) will survive a drying period. However, TB doesn't normally cause fish to go skinny very quickly. In fact most rift lake cichlids, rainbowfish, etc that are suffering from TB don't lose weight at all if they are well fed. TB also takes months to kill fish and you lose one here and one there. You don't start losing large numbers in a very short space of time.

Hexamita and Coccidiosis will cause fish to go skinny very quickly, as will most internal bacterial & protozoan infections. If you can get hold of Metronidazole (Flagyl) then that should treat most of these internal problems. You usually require a vet to prescribe Flagyl, but there might be medications around that contain it. Check out "Waterlife Octozin" and something called "Hexamit", (I'm not sure who makes Hexamit but if you ask the local fish shop they might have heard of it). Those medications might contain Metronidazole.
Tolak uses the drug to treat his angelfish and can offer you advise on how much to use.


i got hold of a vet who specializes in fish!

he told me to put a couple of kilos of salt in each tank witch i have now done!

he didnt tell me to empty the tanks and clean the filters out but i have done so hoping to kill off anything that will harm my fish!

now that my tanks are emtpy and dry, should i use somthing to clean the inside with to make sure its safe? also should i be looking t cleaning my canister filters and sponge filters? i cleaned them with salt already!
 
If you want to use salt to disinfect the tank you should wash everything out with tap water to get it clean. Then fill the tank up with fresh water and add heaps of salt. Go to a swimming pool shop or somewhere and buy a 25kg bag of pool salt. Fill the tanks with water and add enough salt so it no longer dissolves. Then clean the filters and get them running on the tank with salt in. Leave the salt running through the tanks for 24-48 hours. After that drain and refill the tank several times with fresh water. Then cycle them again before adding fish.

You can use bleach to clean the tanks with when they are empty, (if you want to). Have the empty tanks outside on the lawn and wipe the inside and outside down with bleach that is straight out of the bottle, (use White King household bleach or similar). Leave the bleach on the tank for about 5 minutes and then wash it off really well with tap water.
You can wash the filter and plastic ornaments down with bleach as well if you like. Normally salt is enough for most freshwater diseases.

Make sure you wear rubber gloves and safety glasses when using bleach. If you get any on your skin wash it off immediately with tap water.
 
If you want to use salt to disinfect the tank you should wash everything out with tap water to get it clean. Then fill the tank up with fresh water and add heaps of salt. Go to a swimming pool shop or somewhere and buy a 25kg bag of pool salt. Fill the tanks with water and add enough salt so it no longer dissolves. Then clean the filters and get them running on the tank with salt in. Leave the salt running through the tanks for 24-48 hours. After that drain and refill the tank several times with fresh water. Then cycle them again before adding fish.

You can use bleach to clean the tanks with when they are empty, (if you want to). Have the empty tanks outside on the lawn and wipe the inside and outside down with bleach that is straight out of the bottle, (use White King household bleach or similar). Leave the bleach on the tank for about 5 minutes and then wash it off really well with tap water.
You can wash the filter and plastic ornaments down with bleach as well if you like. Normally salt is enough for most freshwater diseases.

Make sure you wear rubber gloves and safety glasses when using bleach. If you get any on your skin wash it off immediately with tap water.

thanks mate!

i think i will use bleach for my tanks.

what will i use to clean my rocks, canister filter`s, sponge filter`s & filter media with?
 
filter and filter media can be bleached as well. The rocks can be boiled or cooked in the oven at 120C for an hour.
 
I just boil the filter sponges in the microwave.
 
my tanks have been empty for 1 week and i have replaced all the filter media and sponge filters & i dosed my tanks with salt before draining them. i did not wash them out with bleach as i have to many pipes comming in and out of my aquariums and i dont want to cut them !

Do you think it is now safe to start the tanks back up?
 

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