Moonlight or no light?

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Hi all,

Curious about the overnight light settings you use for your tropical tank now that there are so many LED options. Do fish benefit from the 'moonlight' feature on the newer LEDs, or should they have a gradual phase into 'lights out'? Right now with a newer LED fixture, I go from daylight to moonlight to lights out. I've read that moonlight is good overnight for salt/coral tanks, but not getting a clear direction for tropical.
Thank you!
 
I've read that moonlight is good overnight for salt/coral tanks, but not getting a clear direction for tropical.
Corals don't photosynthesise at night and if the moon light is a blue colour then it's not normal for fish, plants or corals to have at night. Blue light is most intense during the middle of the day and does not normally occur at night.
 
I'll go with soft neon colors like turqoise ... well the lights in my tank also serve as my sleeping light ... 20% brightness or 10% , moonlight means dimmed purple light ?
Defininately not Blue Light ... since thats the bright ..
 
Here we go the blue light
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I don't use the moonlight settings as I don't think they look natural and they do nothing for me or the fish. Not sure if they cause any harm. I do think that a gradual sunrise is less stressful for many fish than a sudden lights on.
 
I personally don’t use the “moonlight” setting. It seems to stress my fish out when it’s on. I just turn my lights off at night.

“I don't use the moonlight settings as I don't think they look natural and they do nothing for me or the fish. Not sure if they cause any harm. I do think that a gradual sunrise is less stressful for many fish than a sudden lights on.”

I personally turn on the room lights for about 15 minutes, before turning on their tank lights. This sort of gives them a chance to “wake up” and not be blinded by the super bright tank light. :)
 
As AquaBarb said, fish need a few hours total darkness in every 24. leaving a light on all night, even if dim, is not good for fish.
 
Light has a tremendous impact on freshwater fish. These couple of excerpts from an article I wrote on the topic should explain.

Lighting: How It Affects Freshwater Fish

Fish are affected by light in many ways. There are several well-documented studies on spawning in some species being triggered by changes in the day/night cycle, and the hatching of eggs and the growth rate of fry can be impacted significantly depending upon the presence and intensity of light. The health of fish is closely connected to the intensity of the overhead light, various types of light, and sudden changes from dark to light or light to dark. To understand this, we must know something about the fish’s physiology. The primary receptor of light is the eye, but other body cells are also sensitive to light.

Fish eyes are not much different from those of other vertebrates including humans. Our eyes share a cornea, an iris, a lens, a pupil, and a retina. The latter contains rods which allow us to see in dim light and cones which perceive colours; while mammals (like us) have two types of cones, fish have three—one for each of the colours red, green and blue. These connect to nerve cells which transmit images to the brain, and the optic lobe is the largest part of the fish’s brain.

These cells are very delicate; humans have pupils that expand or contract to alter the amount of light entering the eye and eyelids, both of which help to prevent damage occurring due to bright light. Fish (with very few exceptions such as some shark species) do not have eyelids, and in most species their pupils are fixed and cannot alter. In bright light, the rods retract into the retina and the cones approach the surface; in dim light the opposite occurs. But unlike our pupils that change very quickly, this process in fish takes time. Scientific studies on salmon have shown that it takes half an hour for the eye to adjust to bright light, and an hour to adjust to dim light. This is why the aquarist should wait at least 30 minutes after the tank lights come on before feeding or performing a water change or other tank maintenance; this allows the fish to adjust to the light difference.

The Day/Night Cycle

Most animals have an internal body clock, called a circadian rhythm, which is modified by the light/dark cycle every 24 hours. This is the explanation for jet-lag in humans when time zones are crossed—our circadian rhythm is unbalanced and has to reset itself, which it does according to periods of light and dark. Our eyes play a primary role in this, but many of our body cells have some reaction to light levels. In fish this light sensitivity in their cells is very high. Blind fish still react the same to light/dark, because of this light sensitivity.

Previously I mentioned that the rods and cones in the eye shift according to the changes in light. This process is also anticipated according to the time of day; the fish “expects” dawn and dusk, and the eyes will automatically begin to adjust accordingly. This is due to the circadian rhythm.

This is one reason why during each 24 hours a regular period of light/dark—ensuring there are several hours of complete darkness—is essential for the fish. In the tropics (home to 95% of the fish species we keep), day and night is equal for all 365 days a year, with approximately ten to twelve hours each of daylight and complete darkness [no moonlight or ambient room light], separated by fairly brief periods of dawn or dusk. The period of daylight produced by direct tank lighting can be shorter; and the period of total darkness can be somewhat shorter or longer—but there must be several hours of complete darkness in the aquarium. The dusk and dawn periods will appear to be stretched out, but that causes no problems for the fish. It is the bright overhead light that is the concern, along with having a suitable period of total darkness. And the "day" period when the tank lights are on should be one continuous period, not sporadic, and it should be the same every 24 hours or it will impact the circadian rhythm causing more stress.

Turning the Tank Light On/Off

When the tank light suddenly turns on in a dark room, fish will dive to the substrate, dash about frantically often hitting the glass sides of the aquarium, or even jump out of the water. The same reactions occur when the tank lights are suddenly turned out. Aside from any possible physical injury the fish may sustain, these sudden changes in the light cause significant stress to the fish. Bright camera flashes can also be stressful in the same way. So also would any unnatural effect such as strobe lighting.

Thom Demas, curator of fishes at the Tennessee Aquarium, defines stress as anything that threatens to disrupt an organism’s normal physical, mental and/or emotional state. The organism must then expend energy dealing with the stressor, which leaves it with less energy to deal with other things, such as pathogens. “If the fish are busy running from or hiding from that weird phenomenon of ‘instant lights on or off,’ they may be wasting energy to this stressor and eventually get sick from something that is most likely ubiquitous and that they would have tolerated had the stressing event not been there,” says Demas. There is now ample scientific evidence that in fish as in humans, stress at any level has a very negative impact on the immune system because it disrupts the physiological equilibrium of the fish.

The solution with tank lights is obvious: the room should always be reasonably well lit when the tank light comes on and when it goes off. As Marc Kind, curator of fishes and invertebrates at the Adventure Aquarium in Camden, New Jersey, says, “this is just good, sound husbandry.” Given the evidence mentioned previously of the time it takes for fish to adjust, the room should be lit for at least an hour before and after the tank light is turned on or off respectively.
 
I'll go with soft neon colors like turqoise ... well the lights in my tank also serve as my sleeping light ... 20% brightness or 10% , moonlight means dimmed purple light ?
Defininately not Blue Light ... since thats the bright ..
Purple light is ultra violet and does not occur at night.
 
Thanks to all for the replies! The LED lights that came with my newer tank were bright but not adjustable. It was either disco bright lights or blue/purple moonlight. My new garden seedlings love them, but I recently ordered and received this light for the fish, and it has a 24 hour cycle - goes from dawn lighting to totally off in increments and once set to the time you want at dawn, it just does the daylight to night cycle. You can also program it. So far I'm really happy, but I haven't had it long enough to stand the test of time. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N1BJXLD/?tag=ff0d01-20
 
Thanks to all for the replies! The LED lights that came with my newer tank were bright but not adjustable. It was either disco bright lights or blue/purple moonlight. My new garden seedlings love them, but I recently ordered and received this light for the fish, and it has a 24 hour cycle - goes from dawn lighting to totally off in increments and once set to the time you want at dawn, it just does the daylight to night cycle. You can also program it. So far I'm really happy, but I haven't had it long enough to stand the test of time. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N1BJXLD/?tag=ff0d01-20
Those are nice. I have something similar on my Sumatra tank. The other option is to just buy a cheap timer from the hardware store.
 

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