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I paid about £70 for my 405s inc Delivery, I know what you mean about them spurting out crap when you start them up again, as for noise, my 405s run more or less silent, when the doors on the cabinet are closed you cant hear them.

Im a very light sleeper and the 305 on my 30gal run silent, apart from the water movement in the tank its quiet.

as for the filters with the3 heater etcd in ill have to have a look on the net and find out now :) its been bugging me for ages now :)
 
§tudz said:
scotslasszoe said:
To Be totally honest. I dont not like the 305. I used to use a Eheim 2217 before and found that so much better. My Lps says i can put a spray bar onto 305 which i am going to try and see if i find it better then.

Zoe
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you dont have live plants so i dont see any point in the spray bar. IYO whats wrong with the 305s? Ive had no issues, just wondered why you dont like them.

As for the tetra extrenals, they have a really fragile looking bend to hook over the side of the tank, and if you have a decent hood on a large tank (like on my 6x2x2, which has a wooden lid) the bend just wouldnt fit, and they also use smooth clear pipes which are very thin, so they have to pump harder to get the same water through put as a fluval which has larger pipes.

there was one make which if Id had to the cash for i would have probablly gotten instead of the fluvals, as they have built in heaters, but they con you by not providing the filter media, which is so damned expensive it seem pointless owning one of the filters. For the life of me i cant remeber what brand they were :blush:
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I dont get the "you dont have live plants so i dont see any point in the spray bar" unless i mis-read it?

I personally WOULD have a spray bar if no live plants and would NOT have spray bar on my live plant tank, reason being it's my understanding that a spray bar if positioned correctly with enough flow can help facilitate driving off co2 and and promoting o2, therefore, i use spray bars for my cichlid and odd-ball tanks and no spray bar for my planted community.

I would be interested in knowing if i got this the wrong way round?

I am under the impression that one of the best uses of spray bar is to help manipulate this o2/co2 relationship?

Zoe, i hope this doesnt sidetrack the thread too much, i am curious......

EDIT: aaaahhhhh.... perhaps spray bar = less current, is that the point?
 
yeah spray bars decrease current, so in a planted tank it doesnt disturb the plants as much, if you have them in a normal tank, there is less water movement and the mulum tends to gether on the substrate. this isnt an issue reall yin planted tanks as the plants use the mulum, in a non-planted tank it causes big problems.

ive used both systems with planted tanks, both with and without extra co2, and got the same results. IMO you dont need to inject co2.

Alot of fish require the faster moving water as well, spray bars can be helpful as you are helping more oxygen enter the water buy agitating the surface, so i would guess a mix of the two would be the over all best solution, as long as you dont mind the noise of spray bars.
 
Are you gonna eventually put your Balas in a 6 foot tank? As alot of people on here say 6ft min for balas but then i see so many people on here with their bala's in 5 foots
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nah, gonna keep mine as they are unless i see problems later on. as long as the tank isn't overcrowded or jammed full od decorations i dont think a 5x2x2 will be too small for 3 bala's!
nath1 :good:
 
Thanks Zoe, the size is almost 1000ltrs, it is a 6ft x 2.3 x 2.5 custom tank.

I have all kinds in there: -

x2 flowerhorns, Jack Dempsey, Electric Blue JD, x2 Blue Acara male and female, Green Terror,
21" Fire Eel, 9" Tire track eel, x3 Spinny eels, X2 Poly Senegalue, Livingstoni, x5 Jewel Fish,
x4 Clown Loaches, Gold Nugget Plec, Albino Plec, Common Plec, Various corys, Silver Shark,
X3 Silver Dollars, Convict, X2 Aquatic Frogs + various other cichlids

bit of a mix one may say lol
 
8inary said:
Thanks Zoe, the size is almost 1000ltrs, it is a 6ft x 2.3 x 2.5 custom tank.

I have all kinds in there: -

x2 flowerhorns, Jack Dempsey, Electric Blue JD, x2 Blue Acara male and female, Green Terror,
21" Fire Eel, 9" Tire track eel, x3 Spinny eels, X2 Poly Senegalue, Livingstoni, x5 Jewel Fish,
x4 Clown Loaches, Gold Nugget Plec, Albino Plec, Common Plec, Various corys, Silver Shark,
X3 Silver Dollars, Convict, X2 Aquatic Frogs + various other cichlids

bit of a mix one may say lol
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Bit of a mix, Looks fantastic a tank to be proud off.

Zoe :good:
 
To be honest, it has only just been finished off, took a while but I got there eventually :good:
 
Well it has taken a good few months to be honest. Once the tank was being made, I had a friend make the unit and hood. Even though he is good with wood, he is actually an electrical contractor and therefore did all the electrics as well.

In the unit, I have a flush gutter with 18 electrical sockets fitted into the back, and he sorted the frequency/ballast controls for the lights, so he saved me a small fortune. Once I got it all delivered, which was a task in itself. I had to pay 4 guys to lift the tank in lol. Filling up the tank seemed to take hours...well it did actually lol, got the heaters on, and the air pump running (4000ltrs/hour), and then sorted out the 3 external filters. I went with overkill by getting 3 large externals cycling 7000ltrs/hour. I also went with coral sand, and ended up with around 80kgs of the stuff.

In respect to the decor, I wanted a marine type look for tropical. The TMC rocks cost around £350 and a further £130 for artificial plants and £120 for corals from the states. The total is around £3000 without the fish, albeit I had those from a previous tank, so it took longer than I had hoped due to funding it on a monthly basis.

I got the last lot of plants last week and therefore that pretty much completes it for now, although I may get a few more pieces of TMC rock. I will also need to replace the plants on a regular basis due to their attraction to algae and general wear and tear.
 
In respect of upgrading tanks, I would after doing this, say go for the biggest you can afford and fit into your house lol.

My fiance and I have had several tanks now, but have upgraded every 6 months thereof. When I ordered this one, I did not really think just how big it would be with the unit and hood. It is big sat in the house at 5.5ft high, 6ft wide by 2.5ft deep, with a foot print weighing around 1.1tonn!

However, on the face of it, it is potentially easier to just get a big tank, which thus saves on the hassle of upgrading a few times in the future.

Plus, just think of the fish you can get for it!

The only downside is that we may later this year get a new house, and the thought of moving it is causing us nightmares! also, whilst we have solid floors
in our house at present, it is likely that the new house would not, therefore before moving it, we would need the floor reinforcing.
 
I think its more than 1.1 ton, as 100gallon is 1 metric ton, and at over 200gallons your looking at a lot more wait than that.

The tank just blags my head, watching the vid my head is saying nice marine tank, and then another part of the brain is going "What the hell! thats a clown loach! wait they're not marine fish in there! cichlids?! eels, Polypterus Senegalus!!!"
it is impressive and it makes me want to upgrade to a 10' soon, too many people with 4-6'tanks now :D I need to go bigger hehehe!!
 
8inary said:
In respect of upgrading tanks, I would after doing this, say go for the biggest you can afford and fit into your house lol.

My fiance and I have had several tanks now, but have upgraded every 6 months thereof. When I ordered this one, I did not really think just how big it would be with the unit and hood. It is big sat in the house at 5.5ft high, 6ft wide by 2.5ft deep, with a foot print weighing around 1.1tonn!

However, on the face of it, it is potentially easier to just get a big tank, which thus saves on the hassle of upgrading a few times in the future.

Plus, just think of the fish you can get for it!

The only downside is that we may later this year get a new house, and the thought of moving it is causing us nightmares! also, whilst we have solid floors
in our house at present, it is likely that the new house would not, therefore before moving it, we would need the floor reinforcing.
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I am upgrading in April to a 6 footer. I dont think my floor with take the weight but LPS says it will. If i wanted to get someone to come and check the floor who would be the best person to come and see it?

That is my only concern about upgrading is the weight.

Z
 
if your floors are concrete you will be fine, don't put it upstairs as you'd need to re-enforce the floor like they do in bathrooms under the bath.

I would imagine you'd need a structural surveyor to check out the floor for you, if your unsure.
 
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