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I often frequent the local pet stores in town and many of the times when I'm on forums and blogs such as this, I notice a lot of negative attitude towards the Local fish stores that people buy livestock from. It is not necessarily without justification. Buying from other local hobbyists you will more then likely obtain a higher quality fish for multiple reasons. To name a few would be: Better quality care, Healthier tank size and water conditions, Better feed, etc...

The goal of this topic is to shed some light (In my opinion) on LFS and how I personally approach them and why I more then often choose to buy from them rather then local hobbyists. I'm hoping perhaps it will help in explaining as to why the fish are often low quality and why I prefer to buy from there.

First and foremost I would like to answer the question on everyone's mind as soon as they read the first small paragraph. For one I am in no way advocating that people should buy fish from fish stores. Its a personal choice where you get your livestock from, As well I am not discouraging the same purchases from the LFS. Several weeks ago i purchased six Black mollies from my LFS. They were in bad shape to begin and to the inexperienced eye they would be just fish. The normal melanistic color was drained from the gill area and around the dorsal fin, not only that there was the odd floater up at the top of the tank. Normally you would look at this and choose not to purchase a fish in those conditions. However when I see fish in that type of care I immediately purchase several from the tanks. Now, Why would i do that? Personally I view it like I'm saving a dog from a life of abuse and neglect. The before fish is nothing like the Mollies I have bolting around in my tank today. The alpha male of the tank (Affectionately named Oscar) Went from the above conditions to the darkest silk black that I had hoped for. Through varied diet of bloodworms, tropical flakes, some homemade food, and a couple of freeze dried shrimp, almost all the mollies I bought that day are in fine shape. They are full of energy that Was non-existent in the fish store, They even brave the dreaded Fluval 406 currents. Unfortunately one molly was lost in the process, This is a fact of fishkeeping. You win some and you lose some.

I hope through this small story that next time you go to the local fish department and see the fish there, that you will be able to give a fish a more deserving home where they thrive and enjoy life as all living things should. =)

Any questions can be posted here or PM me and i will answer them to the best of my abilities.
 
I understand your point and I respect it. However, I disagree. I purchase my fish from the overall healthiest shop I possibly can. I don't do this for selfish reasons either. It's not because I want the healthiest fish for myself. I want to support the shop that provides the best care for lives that are dealing in. The shops that can't respect that they are selling living animals don't deserve a cent from me. But sir, I do agree with you when you say, "You win some and you lose some." Only the one's that are lost to me are the one's that fish shop purchased with your money, not mine.
 
Both points equally valid

However I have to agree with Trainrek above. The 2 shops I buy from mainly in my area are Whatf aquatics in Nottingham and a small LFS called Perrys aquatics in Lincoln. Both crystal clear tanks and really know there stuff about fish. I wouldn't personally buy anything to go in my community tanks or my larger fish tanks from any dirty or unhealthy looking fish shop tank but that's just me

I do like the principal behind your point though and it's nice to know there are caring people out there who have the right intentions with fish so credit to you there mate
 
Of course there are respectable shops out there. Unfortunately in my area the specialty shop only deals in saltwater. The rest is Petland,Petsmart,Petcetera. Lots of people caring for fish that don't have a clue besides throwing some flakes in.
 
I have to disagree. The money you paid for those fish, while allowing them to be taken to a much nicer home, facilitates more fish being brought into those terrible conditions. I know, I know, the conditions at the suppliers aren't always great either, but you can't always know that so you have to go with what you can see. Especially in the case of livebearers, they may be buying fry from a local hobbyist so the fish are going from great conditions to worse in the LFS.

I'm really lucky in that I have a great independent fish shop 10 minutes from home so I will always give my money to them above a chain store or another store with poor quality stock. Not everyone has a choice in the matter I know, but I'd rather keep a good shop in business than having it shut down because I was giving my money to another LFS because I felt sorry for the fish in there.
 
Purchase fish in ill health from bad stores, you keep them in business. They just order more stock and keep it in the same conditions, because people buy it anyway.

Purchase healthy fish from a good shop, boycotting the poor shop, and you keep decent keepers in business, and you know you will get healthy fish. The poor business ceases to trade and the ill stock is no longer available to buy at all.

It's a no brainer to me.
 
we dont all have muliple tanks - i wouldnt buy fish that looked ill because they would have to go straight in my main tank, which puts my fish at risk. also, i hate mollies, i wouldnt buy fish that i didnt like just because they dont look happy. harsh, but true. well done for 'doing your bit', its not an option for everybody though.
 
Theres only 3 shops out of about 8 that are within a half hour drive from my house that I would buy fish from. I have only one tank at home which has about £130 worth of fish in, I can't afford to lose all those guys for the sake of a new fish that is carrying diseases, so I chose the shops I buy from very carefully, looking in ALL the tanks (as many shops use a central fitration system so all the tank are interconnected) for any signs of ill fish.
 
Purchase fish in ill health from bad stores, you keep them in business. They just order more stock and keep it in the same conditions, because people buy it anyway.

Purchase healthy fish from a good shop, boycotting the poor shop, and you keep decent keepers in business, and you know you will get healthy fish. The poor business ceases to trade and the ill stock is no longer available to buy at all.

It's a no brainer to me.


we dont all have muliple tanks - i wouldnt buy fish that looked ill because they would have to go straight in my main tank, which puts my fish at risk. also, i hate mollies, i wouldnt buy fish that i didnt like just because they dont look happy. harsh, but true. well done for 'doing your bit', its not an option for everybody though.



Everybody has their own opinions on the matter. I only have the option of three LFS and they all don't take great care of their fish. Either way whether I buy from them or not they get new stock every week. The ones I buy go to a better home in the least. I also never said I didn't like mollies.
 
Purchase fish in ill health from bad stores, you keep them in business. They just order more stock and keep it in the same conditions, because people buy it anyway.

Purchase healthy fish from a good shop, boycotting the poor shop, and you keep decent keepers in business, and you know you will get healthy fish. The poor business ceases to trade and the ill stock is no longer available to buy at all.

It's a no brainer to me.


we dont all have muliple tanks - i wouldnt buy fish that looked ill because they would have to go straight in my main tank, which puts my fish at risk. also, i hate mollies, i wouldnt buy fish that i didnt like just because they dont look happy. harsh, but true. well done for 'doing your bit', its not an option for everybody though.



Everybody has their own opinions on the matter. I only have the option of three LFS and they all don't take great care of their fish. Either way whether I buy from them or not they get new stock every week. The ones I buy go to a better home in the least. I also never said I didn't like mollies.

So it wasn't really a rescue mission as such if you only have the choice of poor stock or no stock.
 
Purchase fish in ill health from bad stores, you keep them in business. They just order more stock and keep it in the same conditions, because people buy it anyway.

Purchase healthy fish from a good shop, boycotting the poor shop, and you keep decent keepers in business, and you know you will get healthy fish. The poor business ceases to trade and the ill stock is no longer available to buy at all.

It's a no brainer to me.


we dont all have muliple tanks - i wouldnt buy fish that looked ill because they would have to go straight in my main tank, which puts my fish at risk. also, i hate mollies, i wouldnt buy fish that i didnt like just because they dont look happy. harsh, but true. well done for 'doing your bit', its not an option for everybody though.



Everybody has their own opinions on the matter. I only have the option of three LFS and they all don't take great care of their fish. Either way whether I buy from them or not they get new stock every week. The ones I buy go to a better home in the least. I also never said I didn't like mollies.

So it wasn't really a rescue mission as such if you only have the choice of poor stock or no stock.


Again as I've said above, I view it as giving them a better home. There are local hobbyists I buy from.
 
Yes you are giving them a better home. But I think you could say that of every fish bought, healthy or not.
 
hmm..I guess I could cut out anything I want from people's quotes to make it look like they said something they didn't. If you want credit for the rescue then bravo! :good: I hope the next fish that your LFS buys are kept better however, or are you planning to buy their entire stock every time your money helps them purchase more fish to torture with bad conditions?

Besides most people would not want to risk infecting the fish they already have with possible, and likely diseases that the "rescues" will bring home. Why risk putting all of your fish through that?
 

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