keeping dwarf cichlids

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well when i get them(and i will :p ) ill probably get some rams and a couple of chocolate gouramis and maybe an otto or two/or cories :):p
see im planning this all and i havent even started making the tank yet... but ill make it at least 30" wide like suggested :p

i mite get a few tetras too or glass fish or that humpback glassfish i was eyeing for weeks
 
Apistogramma cacatuoides is probably one of the easyest of all apistos to keep and breed.

Their Ph should be some where between 6.5 and 7.5

Water hardness is not too important but if you live in London you may find that it is a little too hard for them to breed.

The best tank size to start with would be 36" x 12" x15" for a trio.

A sands substrate is great. Lots of bog and plants. Just try to give them as many hiding places as possible.

I would however not put the rams in there as they are dwarf too and may fight one another.

I myself live it Bucks where the water is about as hard as it gets in this country. So i use RO water.
 
Vixen said:
others have said like 30" for them like 4 of them  :S
One male 2 or three females , the third female adds a little more breathing room , so to say .
 
Chocolate gourami are not a community fish, they should be kept in a species aquarium due to their less hardy nature. To put it bluntly, chocolates have two attitudes, happy and pissed (excuse the language if anybody found that rude/offensive :nod: ) and they have a tendancy to lean towards the latter.

Their requirements are quite specific, soft, acidic water, subdued lighting are just a few. Not to mention them rarely eating any kind of flake/pellet food so a good supply of live foods is a must.

They are an extremly shy fish and need to be kept in group of 6+ to keep them happy in nothing lower than a 20 gallon tank. A high quality filter is a must, but the water shouldn't be turbulent or the fish will tend to hide away.

Thats just a very brief description of keeping these fish and as you can probably see, they're quite delicate and need a lot of attention.
 
Doggfather said:
Chocolate gourami are not a community fish, they should be kept in a species aquarium due to their less hardy nature. To put it bluntly, chocolates have two attitudes, happy and pissed (excuse the language if anybody found that rude/offensive  :nod: ) and they have a tendancy to lean towards the latter.

Their requirements are quite specific, soft, acidic water, subdued lighting are just a few. Not to mention them rarely eating any kind of flake/pellet food so a good supply of live foods is a must.

They are an extremly shy fish and need to be kept in group of 6+ to keep them happy in nothing lower than a 20 gallon tank. A high quality filter is a must, but the water shouldn't be turbulent or the fish will tend to hide away.

Thats just a very brief description of keeping these fish and as you can probably see, they're quite delicate and need a lot of attention.
nice Doggfather ,

Never kept one , sounds very much like my sons [ false]leaf fish .
He had 2 , we believe one died because it couldn't get enough to eat . [ the other must have out competed him for food ]
They didn't eat meal worms , sometimes crickets , whatever they ate had to be moving . Finding good and safe live food can be problem .

I saw a Ctenopma Acutirostre [ closely related to the chocolate gourami ] in a pet shop about a year ago , under 2 " maybe under 1 1/2 "s , It's been a while . Anyway the fish's price was $40. US [ that I remember ].

Dogg is right , unless you want to set them up in their own tank , avoid them .

However there are many other dwarf sized [ small ]gouramis [ Anabantoids ]that may be able to live with the apisto , and some even eat prepared foods , if you can find them .

Do you have access to Axelrods mini atlas of fresh water fish ? some info seems
misleading :dunno: , but it is still a good reference source . I'm looking at mine now other wise I couldn't spell the following :D :lol: .

If so , or if you can get it check out the parosphromenus , trichopsis , some betta species and even honey gouramis .
These fish are listed to range in sizes from 4 to 10 cms .

Just remember to provide as much cover as you can , caves , rocks , plants , it makes the fish feel safe and secure [ I.M.E ] If you go for the gouramis make sure they have room at the surface to catch a breath of air .

It's great that you are trying to find out first , what fish will Coexist together .
Hopefully more people with more experience will post here to help you .
[ go for a 40 gal :nod: ]
It would be best if you quarantine different species separately .
 
Vixen said:
i saw those double red apistos in my shop today.... i so wanted them... but also feel in love with some marines too.
Salt water fish or service men :lol: .
 
LOL vixen I put a curse on you now you rekindled a fire that had long ago died and I am working on getting some triple reds as well.
 
no the fish type lol, a nice maroon clown fish :wub: it was rubbing and hiding in a soft enenemy.
I wanted those double/triple reds to bring home but... oh yh!i havent eeven made the tank yet :D der :p
 
Have you hit a dead end on this Vixen ?

Stay with freshwater :nod:
 
i will stay with freswater
and i want to go with cihlida maybe... (it all depends if my school isnt guna kick me out for me being off... cos if i aint there no more... the tank wont be exist.)

any ideas of what i could have... other than the apistos?
 

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