Juwel Trigon 190

[baker360360]

new to the fish game for about 4 months. got my first tank 4 months ago a aqua nano 40. after about 3 weeks I wanted a nother bigger tank so got a juwel trigon 190 as its the biggest tank that will fit in doors, have a look the last pic is upto date with this thread 13-8-13.
 
this is where I got to on the nano

2 days after I got the juwel

kinda went for stonehenge.........

 

[fluttermoth]

I love your little Stonehenge!

Your angels are going to be much happier and healthier now, well done for upgrading for them

 

[baker360360]

excuse the reflections... background went on and some more plants.
this is where I am now any suggestion on how to improve more?
some of them plants in the back should grow tall to fill the space.

 

[fm1978]

I like the nano tank...is that big enough for that wee angel in there?
 
The sand is very white and nice n clean too, which is cool. Planning any grass-like planting nearer the front, perhaps?
 
Your lovely stone construction is missing the henge part!

 

[baker360360]

I love your little Stonehenge!

Your angels are going to be much happier and healthier now, well done for upgrading for them

you remember them lol that's nice

 got some amano shrimp today. liked the cherry shrimp but thought the angles would eat them ..

I like the nano tank...is that big enough for that wee angel in there?
 
The sand is very white and nice n clean too, which is cool. Planning any grass-like planting nearer the front, perhaps?
 
Your lovely stone construction is missing the henge part!

angles are in the 190l now and hell yes was saying just today to the misses that I need some kinda grass in there. but have no idea how/where/what to get?
henge part? is that the pieces that go on top?

what do you think of the planting? more heaver planting needed?

 

[fm1978]

Ah, that's really good, they'll be way happier in there!
 
I like the amount of plants in there as it is, it's minimalist and not cluttered. Some short growing stuff would be nice, though. Riccia is quite nice and almost any kind of moss is very nice, too.
 
I'm just being a smart @rse on the henge thing...the Henge in Stonehenge actually refers to the ditch around the stones, not the stones themselves...sorry...

 

[fluttermoth]

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but none of the stripey leaved plants are aquatic; they're members of the Dracaena family and will, eventually die and rot underwater

Also, the one directly behind your neons looks like anubias; that needs to be attached to rock or wood and not planted in the substrate or, again, it'll rot.

Vallis is a tall grass-like plant that is usually quite easy, although it does prefer harder water. If you want a shorter 'grass', dwarf sagittaria is also pretty easy.

 

[baker360360]

Ah, that's really good, they'll be way happier in there!
 
I like the amount of plants in there as it is, it's minimalist and not cluttered. Some short growing stuff would be nice, though. Riccia is quite nice and almost any kind of moss is very nice, too.
 
I'm just being a smart @rse on the henge thing...the Henge in Stonehenge actually refers to the ditch around the stones, not the stones themselves...sorry...

ill look Riccia up then, and ive got a tiny spade from my sons action man so let the digging commence lol

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but none of the stripey leaved plants are aquatic; they're members of the Dracaena family and will, eventually die and rot underwater

Also, the one directly behind your neons looks like anubias; that needs to be attached to rock or wood and not planted in the substrate or, again, it'll rot.

Vallis is a tall grass-like plant that is usually quite easy, although it does prefer harder water. If you want a shorter 'grass', dwarf sagittaria is also pretty easy.

can I attach the anubias to bog wood? and how do I do this?
really like the stripy leaved plants just got them today but that's life. (lesson learned)
will also look up dwarf sagittaria too, when planting grass like plants in aquariums how do you go about it? is it better to plant an area like a garden?

 

[fluttermoth]

can I attach the anubias to bog wood? and how do I do this?

Yes, you can. Either tie it with some sewing thread (being careful not to pull it so tightly you cut into the stem; if you can get a second pair of hands, it's much easier!) or use elastic bands. Or you can use a pure cyanoacrylate superglue; the cheap stuff from pound shops is usually the right stuff; it will say on the back. Just dab the plant and wood to get the surface water off and use a drop of superglue (don't put on too much; it goes white underwater!) then hold it for 30 seconds or so, unitl it's stuck, then it can go straight back in the tank

 

really like the stripy leaved plants just got them today but that's life. (lesson learned)

Yeag, sorry about that! They do look nice, but won't do your tank (or themselves!) any good in the long run. We've got a huge Dracaena marginata in the kitchen that was in my exs aquarium; it's nearly five foot tall now!
 

will also look up dwarf sagittaria too, when planting grass like plants in aquariums how do you go about it? is it better to plant an area like a garden?

Yes, all plants look more natural planted in 'clumps', but leave room for them to spread; dwarf sag spreads by sending out runners, so you don't need many to start with.

 

[baker360360]

 

can I attach the anubias to bog wood? and how do I do this?

Yes, you can. Either tie it with some sewing thread (being careful not to pull it so tightly you cut into the stem; if you can get a second pair of hands, it's much easier!) or use elastic bands. Or you can use a pure cyanoacrylate superglue; the cheap stuff from pound shops is usually the right stuff; it will say on the back. Just dab the plant and wood to get the surface water off and use a drop of superglue (don't put on too much; it goes white underwater!) then hold it for 30 seconds or so, unitl it's stuck, then it can go straight back in the tank

 

really like the stripy leaved plants just got them today but that's life. (lesson learned)

Yeag, sorry about that! They do look nice, but won't do your tank (or themselves!) any good in the long run. We've got a huge Dracaena marginata in the kitchen that was in my exs aquarium; it's nearly five foot tall now!
 

will also look up dwarf sagittaria too, when planting grass like plants in aquariums how do you go about it? is it better to plant an area like a garden?

Yes, all plants look more natural planted in 'clumps', but leave room for them to spread; dwarf sag spreads by sending out runners, so you don't need many to start with.
 


when attaching to bog wood do I try to get as much of the root as possible in contact with the wood? they are potted with that cheap black plastic pots that come with them, which are filled with some kind of wool surrounding the root. I take it I remove this?
 
defo gonna give the grass a try, was worried about planting as I don't have soil or co2 in my tank

 

[fluttermoth]

when attaching to bog wood do I try to get as much of the root as possible in contact with the wood? they are potted with that cheap black plastic pots that come with them, which are filled with some kind of wool surrounding the root. I take it I remove this?

Yes; all plants that come in those pots with rockwool need to be taken out of the pot and as much of the rockwool removed as possible; doing it under a gently running tap can help. You don't need to attach the roots, as such, they'll attach themselves, but you want the rhizome (the thick 'stem' that the roots and leaves grow from) to be in good contact with the wood. I actually love putting plants on wood; moving them about until you find a spot that's a natural fit for the shape of plant you have is oddly fascinating!
 

defo gonna give the grass a try, was worried about planting as I don't have soil or co2 in my tank

I don't have soil, CO2 or bright lighting and I don't use fertilisers, and most of my plants do perfectly well (they're all looking a bit rubbish, atm, as I've been moving things into different tanks!)

 

[baker360360]

Also found some labels for plants not all of them so here they are
Anubias barteri nana
Chlorophytum bichettii
Dracaena sanderiana
Limnophila aromatica
Hygrophila polysperma
Alternanthera rosaefolia
Clinopodium brownei

when attaching to bog wood do I try to get as much of the root as possible in contact with the wood? they are potted with that cheap black plastic pots that come with them, which are filled with some kind of wool surrounding the root. I take it I remove this?

Yes; all plants that come in those pots with rockwool need to be taken out of the pot and as much of the rockwool removed as possible; doing it under a gently running tap can help. You don't need to attach the roots, as such, they'll attach themselves, but you want the rhizome (the thick 'stem' that the roots and leaves grow from) to be in good contact with the wood. I actually love putting plants on wood; moving them about until you find a spot that's a natural fit for the shape of plant you have is oddly fascinating! defo gonna give the grass a try, was worried about planting as I don't have soil or co2 in my tank

I don't have soil, CO2 or bright lighting and I don't use fertilisers, and most of my plants do perfectly well (they're all looking a bit rubbish, atm, as I've been moving things into different tanks!)

Cool I'm gonna get started on that then lol

 

[fluttermoth]

Aquatics; Anubias barteri nana, Hygrophila polysperma, Limnophila aromatica (well, sort of; it grows in rice paddies, above the water really, but seems to do alright submerged), Alternanthera rosaefolia
 
Non aquatics; Chlorophytum bichettii, Dracaena sanderiana, Clinopodium brownei 

 

[DRB]

Nice looking tanks! The white sand really sets it off

 

[baker360360]

Nice looking tanks! The white sand really sets it off

Thanks