Juwel Filter

[MrPurplePickle]

Howdy All,

Interesting reading the some other posts and eneral internet tidbits regarding filters.

I have a Juwel Rio 240, (currently cycling).
Just wondering peoples thoughts on the Juwel filter, leave it it'll be fine or rip it out and get an external?

Besides the obvious fact that ripping it give more space, I guess what I'm asking is, will the Juwel filter be upto the job?

price of a new filter is'nt a major problem, not until the missus sees the credit card bill that is

Cheers

 

[bronzecat]

Hi

I ripped mine out, but only really to give me more room. They do a fair amount of surface area for the size of filter, but can be a little underpowered. The other thing was that some people said that the powerheads can break down easily, but i wouldn't know.

 

[Bobtastic]

I was thinking of asking a similar question MrPurplePickle. I was watching the my Juwel Rekord 800 last night and the thought struck me that the inbuild filter only seems to filter water that "falls" through the top from the surface... I haven't got the filter outlet pointing straight down atm so I can't see how it is that efficient.

That being said I'm extremely new to this hobby and don't know how the majoritory of filters actually work...

 

[raptorrex]

Howdy All,

Interesting reading the some other posts and eneral internet tidbits regarding filters.

I have a Juwel Rio 240, (currently cycling).
Just wondering peoples thoughts on the Juwel filter, leave it it'll be fine or rip it out and get an external?

Besides the obvious fact that ripping it give more space, I guess what I'm asking is, will the Juwel filter be upto the job?

price of a new filter is'nt a major problem, not until the missus sees the credit card bill that is

Cheers

well, even Juwel say this filter is for a lightly stocked, planted tank and it has no mechanical filtration. some suggest that the filter is fine, others, like me, remove them immediately.
buy the rules, perhaps not the best word, that seem to be coming to the for now (on filtration) they are not remotely enough for tanks of the size they come with. they also restrict the type of media you can use, as do many internals.
i doubt anyone would argue that there is one internal filter up to keeping a 240l tank, on its own. indeed there is a good argument to say only an external or a sump is really up to it. but peoples view varie. and how does someone, with only one tank, find out how much better a different filter would make their tank, until they try? i spent several years perfectly happy with the performance of my (external) 900lph filter. it was not till i added a second external( thinking of removing the original and replacing with an Eheim) i could see the difference. add to this the reduction of cleaning time, and greatly extended period between, and you begin to see why people recommend such hight turnover rates for our tanks.
as a rough rule of thumb (for me, true, but others use the same formula) first thing is to get a filter or filters, that offer 5x tank capacity turnover per hour, actually a minimum of,( this is harder than you think, as the flow rates stated on the box bare little relation to the true flow rate, often half that claimed). after that you need to find comments on reliability and media compatibility, from users of those filters

 

[DJ ArKaDaRkA]

since getting rid of my juwel internal my tank stays much cleaner i hardly have to vac my sand and my ammonia and nitrite have been 0 ,the internals are not really up to the job imho

 

[DanielG]

i have a jewel rio 125

even in a tank this size, much smaller than yours, i found that the filter was inadequate, it didnt maintain a good enough flow rate for me and struggled to keep the opposite side of the tank clean.

i took it out and got a tetratec ex700 and it has been a revelation, much better filtration, plus i dont have the unsightly black box in the tank!

 

[ardandy]

How does the internal one come out?

Mines seems to be glued to the side. Is there an easier way?

 

[paulbr1]

I have also asked the same Q.

I have the 260L Vision and thought of removing the internal, but I upgraded the Pump from the 1000L to the 1500L giving me approx 6X turnover, I can't comment on the overall performance as yet but the flow is really good and no issues to report.

Paul.

ps. I did alter the little extensions that come with the pump (you know what I mean) and drilled a few wellplaced 6mm holes just so the fish wouldn't fly to the other end of the tank at warp speed.............

 

[arobinson1984]

How does the internal one come out?

Mines seems to be glued to the side. Is there an easier way?

There is a topic or 2 regarding this, use the search and you will find, I believe the housing is attached to the tank by small silicone blobs and you can empty tank to half full and gently cut away the housing using a stanley / craft knife

Andy

 

[AdAndrews]

i would only remove them if the decor i was having didnt cover over them, i think they are quite good, maybe not strong enough, current wise, but if you cant cover it up then an external would be best, and also as others said its for a lighter stocked tank, i had numerous problems stocking highly with this filter, so if you are choosing many fish, or big waste producing fish then i say get rid.

and if you keep it, dont have a light coloured substrate, i have found that the turnover isnt high enough to pick up poo and heavier waste, you may want to invest in a powerhead

good luck

 

[fish.com1]

This may help
[URL="http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=276098&hl="]http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=276098&hl=[/URL]

 

[Essjay]

And this

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=151345&hl=