Just Had A Rollicking For Being Non Eco Friendly

Hey this comes down to being a real mom, im not about to tell you what to do, but i wasn't spoiled as a kid, my family had, money, and they taught me the value of every penny that came and went through my rich white suburban house. I wouldn't have DREAMED of telling my parents that i cant do job and school...

Are you going to tell him that you cant be a good mother and hold down a job and do his laundry and buy all his #### and bend over backwards and let flow the never ending love of a parent?

Time for him to to saddle up and get a hold of life, FOURTEEN is the working age in Massachusetts here... your in the UK in 2 years he can be in a bar getting piss drunk, buying rounds for his friends on YOUR dollar(pound?).

Your not doing him any favors by letting it all slide like this. Keep your fish tank, you earned it, apparently your an exceptional earner, i never had nice stuff like that when i was a kid, i bought my own car at 17, and my HOUSE at 22, I've never stopped busting my ass for everything i have, i never hated my parents, we had our fights, I've even been to jail as a kid for pulling stupid ####. and my parents let me go, well you know what, I LEARNED, and I'm a better person for it today.

His turn. And yours.

Good luck and gods speed, being a parents one of the hardest jobs on this planet, just as long as you don't forget the second hardest...


Being a kid.

thanks for that, im going to show him what you have said, i also know that when i was 15,16 i was out on my own,kicked out for some crap reason and worked 18 hours a day a day when i should have been in college,i once told my dad to shut up and got knocked across the room i dont want him to have to do that of course i dont, but i do want him to give a second thought to what i do for him,and his dad,we may not live together but he gets support from both of us

and as for grand theft auto, if he wants his he will have to get it,by trading some of the games he has or doing some chores!
oh and i did buy him a tank-he left it empty for 2 months sitting on his room floor, said he wanted pirhanas in it or nothing, so nothing it was!
and i dont honestly think i am doing thats much to make a diffrenece to the enviroment

any ways nuff sed! :)
 
Hey, clearly your getting the message. Being a good mom always comes before... well.. everything.

if your doing that, quite frankly, screw the rest.
 
Surely running a Xbox/PS3 uses far more energy than running fish tanks. And I assume he probably puts it through a LCD TV?. You wanna feel the heat that comes out of my lesser halfs xbox alone! Throw in the LCD TV and it is warmer than a nuclear cooling tower. NOT very eco friendly. Is he also aware of the amount of energy used to produce games and stuff?

But that aside, he is a kid, and a teenage one at that...... he probably did a lecture in school talking about eco stuff.

Hormones and knowledge is a very dangerous thing, but that doesn't mean you will love him any less. I'm sure I was similar when I was that age, I know I wasn't perfect!

Instead of drawing on what your not doing, point out to him the things you do that are eco - friendly.... recycling .etc.

And go and give him a big mum hug
 
You should just stop buying things for him until he realizes that you hold the money :lol: If he asks you for anything electronic, just tell him that cds and circuit boards dont recycle too well and they destroy the environment.
 
Again... destructive reasoning like that is not going to get anyone anywhere and will drive a steak through the heart of any family so fast you wont even know what happened
 
Parenting aside he is just wrong :)

As mentioned the CO2 is being used by the plants and turning into Oxygen.

The earth is mostly covered by water. Unless you are living in the middle of a dessert you aren't "wasting" water. If your in the UK its not like we have a shortage of rain!

Keeping fish in a tank is wrong. Well actually this is the only point I would halfway agree with him on. Fish are wild animals and nobody is going to be able to reproduce their environment in their home. That said however if you take care of the fish they can live longer then they ever would in the wild and the hobby has contributed a great deal to the worlds knowledge of aquatic life. In the near future the methods and technics we use and develop in our hobby can (and actually already are) be used to help breed and repopulate species that are becoming endangered in the wild.

Amount of electricity your tanks use (and the amount of CO2 it creates to generate it). Yes if you have alot of tanks they eat a lot of electricty (my two tanks currently cost about £200 a year to run the electrics). However there is NO uncontested proof that the CO2 humans create has any real effect on "global warming". The earths global temperature and enviroment has changed many times, way before mankind was on the scene.

If it was me I would:
Tell him if he wants to give up every peice of electric equipment he owns you will remove the lights from the fishtank.
Tell him to study photosynthysis and if he can then explain what problem your CO2 cansiters are causing you will give up the CO2.
Tell him if he gives up eating all meat and animal based products (including leather) and any plastic based product (which has a massive carbon footprint to create) you will give up the fish.

Or do what my parents would have done and clip him round the head and tell him to watch his mouth :)
 
first and foremost i hate being in the wrong!!!
I don't think anybody likes to be wrong, but I do think you are being rather childish yourself.
Not being very grown up going off on one just because he said a few things you don't agree with, and then being childiish by hiding his phone.
Its good to have discussions with your kids its what keep families together.
 
A teenage boy should have more on his mind than his mother's co2 canisters.

What wrong with a teenagers questioning things.
 
Everyone needs a hobby, fishkeeping is harmless compared to some things you could be doing in your spare time! Just tell him it's your house so shut up! That's what I have always done. I spoilt my kids too but when they are grown up they look back and they do appreciate it. Mine are 26 and 23 now so the teenage self-rightousness is long gone! I remember being a bit of a pain myself! :)
 

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