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Hi I got told when I got the tank to do a 10-20% water change weekley and clean the filter every 6months is that enuf I didn't fink it was ? I will post my levels on here shortly as I'm not home at the moment and I have sand not gravel so how do I clean that ? I'm usuong a fluval 4 external filter is that ok to use or should I get a bigger 1 ???? And when I cleaned the filter I used some of the tank water to clean it is that right ?
 
hi i have just done my levels for the tank and my tap water
tank : (no3) 25 (no2) 1 (gh) 16d (kh) 10d (ph) 7.6 (cl) 20 amonia 0.25 ppm
tap water : (no3) 50 (no2) 0 (gh) 16d (kh) 20 (ph) 8.0 (cl) 0 amonia 0ppm
 
50 no3 for tapwater is high. That would mean a waterchange would add no3 instead of taking it away
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Im no expert either, but If no3 gets beyond 50 mg/l in your tank your fish will get poisoned
 
On that size tank I would suggest that the 204 is not adaquate to filter a tank that size. From my reading and recomendations by others a 204 is suitable for a tank up to about 200 litres as it's maximum turnover is 680lph without media.

Your options for external would be the 404, Eheim Classic 600, Eheim Pro 3 600, Rena Filstar, xP3/4 or Tetratec EX1200 or above. These are filters I know give enough filtration for your tank and the 404 is only just ideally no more than 400 litres.

20% water changes and 6 months filter maintance isn't far off. I would suggest that on that filter though you would need to do it every 2 months with tank water, just rinse the media carefully. Do not scrub it at all as you will kill all the bacteria. And if you have polishing pads (white pads) in your filter these may need a heavy rinse through and even replacement every month.

Don't worry about loosing bacteria on this. The amount lost would soon recolignise the new pad.

Kind Regards,

Adam
 
yhanks for that just wondering i have a fluval 304 aswell but needs a new seal ring once thats fixed wud it be better if i have both running would that be better ?
 
If you have both running at same time that would give enough filtration as it would be approx. 1.5x a Fluval 404. I would then suggest you stagger your maintance 2 months between each other and do maintance on both every 4 months total. Replace the white polishing pads (if in use) every 4 months per filter so every other time you do maintance.

That should mean neither filter gets too clogged up and you always have plenty of bacteria to maintain the tank during the cleaning period and recovery time.

Kind Regards,

Adam

p.s should you ever opt to go for 1 single filter then you should aim for cleaning once every 3 months and replace the polishing pads every other time you do maintance.
 
I'd also suggest you consider a liquid-reagent based test kit rather than the paper strips you appear to be using. The strips are showing nitrite(NO2) though, and that needs to be checked with a good test soon as that particular poison could be bad if the level proves true.

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Thanks for the help on the filter situation I have ordered the seal ring and will get that running asap and can I ash what is white polishing pads I'm not sure. I will go out and purchase liquid test kits at the weekend
 
White polishing pads refers to polyfloss that has been manufactured in to a sheet which you either buy already cut to shape for your filter (they charge you a lot for that final step, lol) or you buy a big sheet and cut it yourself with scissors. It comes in all sorts of different thicknesses.

Having your polyfloss in a sheet makes it a little quicker to put back in the filter after a rinse session. Depending on your bioload and similar factors, poly might make it through a few cleanings before it begins to fall apart and need replacing. The assumption is that you have enough biomedia separate from your floss polisher that replacing it represents an insignificant loss of bacteria (this assumption can break down in very small filters I think.)

Polishing pads are part of the "mechanical filtration" media, meaning they trap particles, hold them and if they are organic, allow them to be further broken down by heterotrophic bacteria, staying within the filter and generating further ammonia for the autotrophic bacteria. Poly catches the finest of particles and so the process gets referred to as "polishing" your water to be more crystal clear.

A few years back we had some discussions about how to identify the correct pillow stuffing floss in Walmart and other big box stores that makes good filter poly. I believe the problem was identifying stuff that had not been treated with fire retardant chemicals, but I'm not sure what the best advice was. I remember the upshot was that if you identified the right stuff you had a really cheap source of polishing material for your filters, although not usually in pad form.

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