Is This Normal

[burnzy]

My common goldfish are chasing my veil tails goldfish. Is this normal...?

I'm not sure how many gallons my tank is but the img below mite help ya....

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i have two 1/2'' veil tails and two 1'' common goldfish.

 

[newtotropical]

Hi & welcome!!
Just a thought but you might get more help if you post this in the coldwater section

 

[Matty P]

Your tank is roughly 40g (150L). Is it just the 4 goldfish you have?

 

[england]

yes it shouldnt be a prob...goldfish are active little buggers

 

[Matty P]

Sorry forgot to say

 

[burnzy]

Thanks guys for the welcome, i feel at home..

Hi & welcome!!
Just a thought but you might get more help if you post this in the coldwater section

Sorry if i posted this in wrong section

Your tank is roughly 40g (150L). Is it just the 4 goldfish you have?

Yep just the four, would i be able to add some more goldfish or would it be over crowded..

 

[Matty P]

Yeh I'm sure you could add a couple more. What is the filtration?

 

[burnzy]

My filter is a AquaEl Fan mini filter 260 l/t .

Also this morning i cached fready my big common chasing it again, but this time is was chomping at its tails....

Is this normal lol..

 

[Dark Wolf]

Just thought i'd give you my views on this topic

I've kept gold fish for close to 4 years now and have common goldfish along with black moores, comets and veiltails.

Now i found that comets are bullies and chase others, i also found that my bigger common goldfish also chased after the veiltails, and kept fin nipping.

So i decided to take my veiltail out of the bullies playground, and put him in with a black moore i just bought (because blackmoores don't like to be on their own).

Over time, i decided to keep them seperate, and have one tank for fish such as comets and commons, and one for more fancy tailed fish, such as fantail and blackmoores.

So in my opinon keeping your commons with your veiltail's is unfair on the veils, seem as though it seems that you're common is bullying and being aggressive towards it, and will eventually lead to damaged fins.

 

[burnzy]

Ive separated the fish, common in one tank, and veil tail in another. Now Freddie my biggest common is picking on Squishy, my smallest common. I don't no whether to put Squishy back in with the veil tails as its getting bullied too, but i don't want my little veil to get more injured, what shall i do with Freddie?

 

[Dark Wolf]

it depends, did you notice squishy picking on the veil tails before hand? If it was just freddie who was chasing them, then i'd put squishy back in and see what he's like, with the others.

Freddie sounds very much like my biggest comet, he used to chase all of my fish around because he was the biggest and wanted to show his authority. Sometimes fish like that are better on their own.

 

[Matty P]

Your filters turnover is about 1.7x/hour.

 

[burnzy]

Got another problem now, Ive noticed that my smallest veil tails fin has gotten worse, and Ive also noticed that my biggest veil tail, is nibbling on the smallest veil tail's, tail. His left arm fin has completely gone, and his rear tail looks worn down, and separated. What am i supposed to do, Ive already took my commons to my girlfriends house, I'm going to have to separate these two as well, need advise. Don't want my little one to die.

 

[Dark Wolf]

I'm sorry, but i don't know what to suggest. Seperating the commons was a good idea, but in my experience i've never had my fancy tailed fish try and fin nip each other.

Seperating does seem to be the only option if you don't want you're veil tail to be finless.

I could well be completely wrong here and just imagined that i read it, so don't take it as correct, but don't fish sometimes pick on other fish that they know are ill?

 

[vinylman]

My filter is a AquaEl Fan mini filter 260 l/t .

I'm not familiar with this filter; is it an internal or external?. If you have a 40G with coldwater fish and a an hourly turnover of anything less than 3/4 times the tank volume, I'd go for a large external model. Coldwater fish really are very messy. If you did get a large external, you could maybe add a couple more fish, but nothing too large.