JohnRossDele
Fish Herder
Is my tank over-crowded u can take a look at my sig and the pic thats also in the sig 
im planning to re-home the fish that get too big
im planning to re-home the fish that get too big
Is My Tank Over-crowded?
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chesterscot
Fish Herder
yes imo it is
You know it is, we've all told you, but you dont listen, but again in case your interested this time. You need to rehome the following: The Oscar, at least 1 blue acara, the bala sharks, the clown loach long term and the black ghost knife fish, for their sake.
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JohnRossDele
Fish Herder
i do listen i just want to be sure 2 be sure thats all
fish are friends....
Fishaholic
Very overstocked I have to say, And a stange mix of fish too, id get rid of the ooscar like said before, the GKF and the shark, and clown loach. There are too many bottom dwellers. And as the acaras get bigger you might lose some fish
mwood2
Fish Addict
you should be sure when 6+ different people in your other topics have all said the same thing.
markandhisfish
comfortably numb
disaster waiting to happen
wolfwolf
Fish Crazy
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i have sat and read most of your posts and do you have any kind of clue about keeping fish im sorry if it sounds harsh but you have asked opion after opion and just tossed what everybody has told you and continued doing what you do and thats asking the same questions you have had the answers for multiple times off people giving you advice
LauraFrog
Fish Gatherer
Okay, I'll repeat what I said last night.
You could POSSIBLY keep the acaras or the eels long term in that size tank, but NOT both, and either of them will cause havoc with the mollies, cory cats and danio. The eels, when they are a little bigger, will start eating anything they can fit in their mouths. Acaras are aggressive and territorial, and especially if they try to spawn, they will shred anything that gets in their way.
The oscar needs a tank that is double that size at the very least, and it needs to be kept alone, with other oscars, or with similarly-sized fish like other South American cichlids or plecos. It will eat most of the other fish in that tank and has already started causing you problems with its aggressive behavior. you can't blame a fish for acting naturally.
The bala sharks, clown loach and pleco are all peaceful fish, but they just get too large for that tank and will never be comfortable in it long term. You're condemning them to a life of misery trying to keep them in that tank. The sooner you move them, the more likely they will be happy, so you either need to get a bigger tank, or rehome them before they get so large that moving them will be extremely stressful.
The black ghost knife needs a much larger tank and is also a very senstive and hard to keep fish (two of them have already died in your care.) I'm assuming, since you have stocked a tank like that, that you are an inexperienced fishkeeper. BKGF are NOT beginner's fishes. They are too sensitive.
The krib, danio, mollies and corys are fine to keep in that tank long term. The krib is a semi-aggressive fish, but with only one he will cause very little disruption (The problem is when you have a breeding pair because they will aggressively defend their nest site and their fry.) You can have any small community fish that the krib won't eat (so anything larger than small tetras or guppies) but make sure you don't overcrowd the tank this time, because at the moment it is overstocked and the filter will not cope with this sort of fish load. Most of the fish you have in the tank are what we call 'tankbusters' - they are fish for specialist aquarists because they grow very large, produce a lot of waste for their body size, and are often aggressive and carnivorous in their feeding patterns. If you have a 250 gallon tank and you want to put tankbusters in it, you CANNOT stock it with 250 inches of fish - in fact, if you put five large cichlids, like oscars, in it, most people would agree that it was fully, if not overstocked. It would also need a very heavy amount of filtration. The filtration on the Rio 240 is designed to cope with the relatively small (in relation to body size) amount of waste produced by small, mainly schooling, freshwater fish. It cannot handle that many tankbusters.
Your entire tank is a ticking timebomb because it is overstocked, underfiltered, and crammed full of fish that are incompatible. Once they begin to reach sexual maturity, or get large enough to feel crowded, they are going to start ripping each other to shreds. You've already lost several fish. The faster you find new homes for the fish that HAVE TO GO, the less likely that you're going to kill more.
PLEASE take our advice... we don't want to wreck your tank and your plan for it, we can just see what's going to happen if you don't fix it, and it's not going to be pretty. We don't want to turn you off the hobby, but we know that what will happen if you leave a tank like that (utter chaos and a lot of fish deaths) will do it far more effectively than anything unintentionally discouraging we could say. If people are getting a bit snappy, it's because most of them have been telling you to rehome those fish for weeks.
You could POSSIBLY keep the acaras or the eels long term in that size tank, but NOT both, and either of them will cause havoc with the mollies, cory cats and danio. The eels, when they are a little bigger, will start eating anything they can fit in their mouths. Acaras are aggressive and territorial, and especially if they try to spawn, they will shred anything that gets in their way.
The oscar needs a tank that is double that size at the very least, and it needs to be kept alone, with other oscars, or with similarly-sized fish like other South American cichlids or plecos. It will eat most of the other fish in that tank and has already started causing you problems with its aggressive behavior. you can't blame a fish for acting naturally.
The bala sharks, clown loach and pleco are all peaceful fish, but they just get too large for that tank and will never be comfortable in it long term. You're condemning them to a life of misery trying to keep them in that tank. The sooner you move them, the more likely they will be happy, so you either need to get a bigger tank, or rehome them before they get so large that moving them will be extremely stressful.
The black ghost knife needs a much larger tank and is also a very senstive and hard to keep fish (two of them have already died in your care.) I'm assuming, since you have stocked a tank like that, that you are an inexperienced fishkeeper. BKGF are NOT beginner's fishes. They are too sensitive.
The krib, danio, mollies and corys are fine to keep in that tank long term. The krib is a semi-aggressive fish, but with only one he will cause very little disruption (The problem is when you have a breeding pair because they will aggressively defend their nest site and their fry.) You can have any small community fish that the krib won't eat (so anything larger than small tetras or guppies) but make sure you don't overcrowd the tank this time, because at the moment it is overstocked and the filter will not cope with this sort of fish load. Most of the fish you have in the tank are what we call 'tankbusters' - they are fish for specialist aquarists because they grow very large, produce a lot of waste for their body size, and are often aggressive and carnivorous in their feeding patterns. If you have a 250 gallon tank and you want to put tankbusters in it, you CANNOT stock it with 250 inches of fish - in fact, if you put five large cichlids, like oscars, in it, most people would agree that it was fully, if not overstocked. It would also need a very heavy amount of filtration. The filtration on the Rio 240 is designed to cope with the relatively small (in relation to body size) amount of waste produced by small, mainly schooling, freshwater fish. It cannot handle that many tankbusters.
Your entire tank is a ticking timebomb because it is overstocked, underfiltered, and crammed full of fish that are incompatible. Once they begin to reach sexual maturity, or get large enough to feel crowded, they are going to start ripping each other to shreds. You've already lost several fish. The faster you find new homes for the fish that HAVE TO GO, the less likely that you're going to kill more.
PLEASE take our advice... we don't want to wreck your tank and your plan for it, we can just see what's going to happen if you don't fix it, and it's not going to be pretty. We don't want to turn you off the hobby, but we know that what will happen if you leave a tank like that (utter chaos and a lot of fish deaths) will do it far more effectively than anything unintentionally discouraging we could say. If people are getting a bit snappy, it's because most of them have been telling you to rehome those fish for weeks.
What everyone else said! (again) How much MORE sure do you need to be?
By the way, if you wait till the big fish get 'too big' before re-homing you will have several problems - Difficult to rehome, they will eat the smaller fish and probably attack each other, they are likely to become stunted which significantly reduces their lifespan and causes severe health issues. That is if they survive at all.
In a Rio 240 you can have plenty of gorgeous, interesting SUITABLE fish and if I were you I'd be planning that while rehoming the unsuitable residents it currently houses.
By the way, if you wait till the big fish get 'too big' before re-homing you will have several problems - Difficult to rehome, they will eat the smaller fish and probably attack each other, they are likely to become stunted which significantly reduces their lifespan and causes severe health issues. That is if they survive at all.
In a Rio 240 you can have plenty of gorgeous, interesting SUITABLE fish and if I were you I'd be planning that while rehoming the unsuitable residents it currently houses.
Goodygumdrops
Fish Crazy
Well,you opened well and led us in,then I read your stocking sig and just thought '####!!!'.
MrWhite
Fishaholic
Are you just running the juwel internal with all them fish your bio load is huge
gaz gun man
Fish Addict
I dont think you're even capable of keeping fish fingers in the freezer.
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