Id This For Me Please

[4ftguppy]

I have to agree that euthanasia is a better option than palming them off on other unsuspecting or idiotic owners.

Rubbish, these are not the only two options - before it gets too big, phone around a few shops in your area - one will almost certainly have a big tank to keep your fish in; maybe not permanent quarters, but big enough to hold it until they sell it. I had a few of these and the shop told me when I bought them that I could take them back when they got too big for me. I had them for a year or two, and then returned them

You don't kill a fish because its inconvenient - you go to some effort and find it a home. Euthanasia is a last option - and seeing as your fish is not too big yet, you have plenty of time to research this. Place an advert on some internet fish boards - someone will have a giant tank and a shoal of these - its just a matter of finding them

There are people with some pretty big tanks out there, and some shops and public aquaria too. Killing a healthy fish is just not on

 

[KathyM]

I have to agree that euthanasia is a better option than palming them off on other unsuspecting or idiotic owners.

Rubbish, these are not the only two options - before it gets too big, phone around a few shops in your area - one will almost certainly have a big tank to keep your fish in; maybe not permanent quarters, but big enough to hold it until they sell it.

Steady on fella/missus

Where did I say they were the only options?

I said euthanasia was preferable to palming him off to an unsuitable home, and that's true in my opinion.

The other option is to phone around local/regional public aquaria, as they're likely to be the best bet for a big enough permanent home. Not many folks have a 4ft+ wide and 10ft long tank. I've yet to see an LFS with over a 5ft tank.

 

[Qays]

Euthanaise a fish for no reason?!?!

Not until alot of work has been put into rehoming him. Its so and so's fault for buying before researching.

Easy champ, it's just a fish. As important as they are to us they are just fish, and in some cases euthanizing a fish is the best plan for them otherwise they will drag on for months or years in a tank to small for them suffering the entire time.

The problem witjh ID's is that hardly anyone has a tank big enough to house them permanently. This is from someone with a 570 liter tank. My friend has a tank twice this size, and this would still only be a temporary solution, and that's assuming they would wnat to take it.

Edit - even if he only reaches a foot a 100 gallon is not exactly roomy for him. I would get a 180gal minimum if you choose to keep him, and even then you'll be screwed if he grows to 1.5feet and beyond.

Carl

Sorry but, I have to disagree.

A fish is not "Just a fish". Its a living animal.

Theres many things you can do with a fish which will grow, you could research some aquariums and hand it over to them. Someone may want it for their tropical pond.

So Scott...
Why did you take the fish off your brothers friend? Did you think you could handle a 3ft fish?

I reccomend you visit some aquariums and ask them if they will take it.

Kathy, he wouldnt palm it off to an inexperienced fish keeper. You just contradicted yourself btw.

 

[KathyM]

How did I contradict myself? In my original post I offered the advice of ringing public aquaria. Someone else said euthanise, and the thread blew up. I said that IMO euthanasia is preferable to selling him on to an unsuitable home (or putting him in the LFS who would likely resell him to an unsuitable home or let him sit in a too small tank, or euthanise him themselves). I stand by that. Nothing contradictory about it - it's preferable that this fish gets put in a suitable home, but if a suitable home isn't found, euthanasia is better than sitting in a tank that's too small and dying from it.

 

[anvil63]

Ok I agree if you can find a public aquarium or some other suitably gigantic tank to rehome the fish in, that's great and obviously the best solution.

But,
How many Pangasius Catfish do you think are sold every year?
How many outgrow their tanks?
How many 1000+ gallon tanks are out there?

Too many are sold, they all outgrow their tanks, and there are not enough huge display tanks to rehome them all to.

So, many of these fish will end up having to be euthanized. I'm sorry if I tweaked your sensibilities, but its a fact.

Also, while it may be a bit cold to say it's just a fish, or even a "living animal" it's the truth. I have a hard time getting worked over an animal's death as everyday I work with dieing kids at the hospital.

Carl

 

[cheeky_chappie]

guys ... chill ... i don't want to be the cause of any fall outs. let's show each other some ...



... joking aside as i said previously i rescued these from an aquarium that was being emptied for good, if i hadn't i reckon they'd have been introduced to the inside of a toilet bowl!

reading your replies i now have a dilemma. both of them are currently 3" long or thereabouts. one very rarely plays dead, the other one seems to do it a lot more, especially when lights are on. my dilemma is do i

a. keep them until 5 or 6 inches in length and then attempt to re-home them? btw the lfs i have in mind is very reputable and they do all they can not to sell fish to buyers who don't have sufficent aquarium capacity etc.

b. kill them now.

c. offer them to the lfs now.

basically these are my 3 choices. what would you do?

CC

 

[smurfyy_2k3]

lfs now would be best

 

[Bloo]

I wouldn't rescue or buy such a fish in the first place. And find it abominable that these fish are sold so cheaply when they are so small and cute and the clueless buyers (because let's face it - if they knew what these fish become they'd never buy it in the first place) have no idea what monsters they will become.

 

[KyleJ]

http/www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/...em.php?news=661

Just thought id add that!

 

[OohFeeshy]

That's a different species though Like comparing, umm, a dwarf dragon goby (aka rhinogobius wui) to a dragon goby, similar name, very different

But I wouldn't go to the LFS, guessing typical sale size is about 2", and they get fenced to any numpty who comes along, says 'ooh, pretty fishy' and manages to convince the bored assistant they have 3" of stocking left in their tank, so that should be fine, and can I have 6 neons becasue they don't count in the stocking, these particular ones will probably end up the same. It would probably be best to keep them for the time being, it's no worse euthanising then than now if thats what needs to be done.

 

[memnon]

i think that is a pengasius

but just a guess

 

[sammy86]

'just a fish'?
what are you doing on these forums with an attitude like that
poor thing! its not its fault it grows so big you dont kill it because its more conveniant!

 

[Spader]

'just a fish'?
what are you doing on these forums with an attitude like that
poor thing! its not its fault it grows so big you dont kill it because its more conveniant!

they are killing it to end its suffering

 

[cheeky_chappie]

I wouldn't rescue or buy such a fish in the first place ...

if i hadn't rescued them they would almost certainly have been disposed of (via the toilet) as oppose to being re-homed, so tbh i'm pleased i did what i did. having said that, if re-homing them proves impossible i may have to find a kind way to end their lives anway. however i repeat, i'm still happy with the decision i took at the time.

 

[KathyM]

I think the fact that they're only 3" gives you a better timeframe than most to find a suitable home.

I have to agree with OoooFeeshy (too many or too little oos? *lol*) about the LFS, but if they're a really good one, there's no harm in discussing it with them and seeing if they know of anywhere suitable?