Ah what I wouldnt give 4 a 180. I got all kinds of ideals. Iv got really fine gravel in my tanks. 1's a pinkyish sort of colour. The others beigeish brown I find they really brighten up the tank. Copmared to my old big dark gravel. I also am a sucker for the au natural look. Browns and dark green plants look smokin. IMO. Oh yeah and lots of slate and driftwood. I saw a sunken pirate ship somewhere 2. It was neeto. Pm me if ya want anymore ideals. I got tons. Im already planning my next tank which is huge and like still a year away.