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I Found The Fabled Hot Springs!

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Some of you will know exactly what i'm talking about. For those that don't, here's some background info:

About 2 years ago, someone posted on this forum that they were approached by a stranger at Walmart who told him about a secret hot springs that was populated with tropical fish. The poster lived in a climate that frequently dipped below freezing in the winter time, and he was skeptical, but eventually followed this man's instructions and found the springs just as the mysterious man had described.

Members of the TFF were also skeptical because the poster did not take any pictures on his first visit to the springs. Pages and pages of replies ensued of people anxiously awaiting proof of this unlikely find. The poster went back the following week and provided photos that could not be disputed.

The poster decided not to disclose the location of the pond in order to protect it. Then, the poster moved away, and presumably is no longer on this forum. His secret was lost....until now!

When i saw his photos of the pond, the terrain was very familiar and i suspected it might be located in my home state of Utah. In fact, it is in a neighboring state and its location is EXTREMELY remote! It's amazing i found it! During my visit, daytime temperatures were about 50 F, and about to get much, much colder! But the fish in the pond are clearly thriving.

Most of the fish were cichlids, and unfortunately i'm not a cichlid person. I would guess yellow labs and electric blues. The largest and most prevalent fish i cannot ID, though i believe it is a cichlid. There were tons and tons of fry of all different shapes and sizes! Also a few comet goldfish that i suspect are not that happy in water that must be at least 75 F. I did not have a thermometer, or a net (to get a better look and better photos of the fish). I did bring a water sample home and tested the PH which is about 7.8.

I'll get some photos up tomorrow night. Maybe someone can positively ID the fish.
 
I remember reading that thread, everyone was very sceptical (with fair reason) until the pictures were posted.
Look forward to seeing some more :good:
 
Yeah, i remember that thread, was fantastic! Congrats if you really did find it, but please, keep to what he did and dont tell anyone where it is OK? Nice knowing that there is that small little place of untouched bliss that noone is visiting.
 
Wow lucky! I remember that thread as well totally amazing find but as said please dont publish the place. :good:
 
Why do people want to keep this a secret?
 
stops people going and raiding the pond to sell off :angry:
 
stops people going and raiding the pond to sell off :angry:
But if the main attraction is cichlids, haven't people heard of africa and south and central america?
 
stops people going and raiding the pond to sell off :angry:
But if the main attraction is cichlids, haven't people heard of africa and south and central america?

Unfortunately, you can guarantee 100% that there are people who will try to exploit wherever this place is, and ruin it. Some people do not care at all, they think they are entitled to do whatever the heck they want, and hang the expense. Hence, keeping the location a secret greatly reduces the chances of their meddling in such wonders.
 
Before taking that perspective did you give any thought to the impact of introduced species on the populations of fish native to that spring?

And whatever it is that you imagine them doing to this sacred spring, what's stopping them from doing it in africa or south america?
 
Unfortunately (haha, second post here starting with that word...how unfortunate :lol:), I don't know anything about that. I would not know how these fish got there, and when, and if any other fish had been there before. Okay, I assumed that this is the way it has been for quite a while, and basically jumped to conclusions, but it is best to preserve it unless we know 100% for certain. I'm sure someone can enlighten us further, though, as to whether they had possibly displaced native fish, if there were in fact any. Maybe there was nothing at all, and somebody decided to 'experiment.' But at the end of the day, whatever the case, you can guarantee there'd be someone to mess AGAIN, if anything has been messed with already. If it's entirely artificial, then shame on the person who displaced native wildlife (if they did) - and if they didn't, then it's still unique and quite an interesting experiment (or reckless, selfish, etc...depends how you look at it, so many ways to...someone could have been abandoning their fish, and this could be how it ended up).

I don't like it when anyone damages nature. This spring is rather amazing, though, given the conditions surrounding it in the environment. It's one of the last places you'd look for tropical fish. It's a rare thing if it's natural. You don't want to put at great risk things like this just in case, and we have honestly caused enough damage over the world to justify keeping other places safe, to avoid repeating our mistakes. Too little is stopping the same being done to South America and Africa (okay, I don't entirely know that, there might be very strict regulations, but I don't really want to go too much into that because of my OCD...I'd end up researching for hours on end, obsessively checking things up over and over), this could be the one thing we preserve.

All of that said, there just isn't enough information to argue over these points, just that keeping it's location secret might be the best policy (for now, or for ever, whichever you prefer). I am not a fan of freeing up every last little bit of information, some things are best kept under the radar. Once you open the box, it'll stay open...we've been down that road plenty of times.

I'm adopting the precautionary stance. I can't assume it's always been that way, I suppose, it's rather a quick conclusion to jump to. I don't wish to condone displacing native wildlife (it pees me off a lot, in fact, and people really should have learnt their lesson by now). But we can't assume it's never been that way for a long while, either. It could have been changed so long ago, decades maybe...

I guess I'm saying more information is needed before any concrete conclusions on this issue can be drawn. I can only speculate. I hope I didn't offend you by speculating in the manner I did. Maybe the fish are doing it to confuse us and distract us while they plot world domination :hey:.

I also hope I didn't take everything too far off topic.
 
Anyone know where the original post is, wouldn't mind reading it.

Thanks
Mike
 
Found this on the internet it appears to be a resort/tourist attraction in Utah not a little slice of paradise.

http://www.mystichotsprings.com/Tropical_Fish/tropical_fish.html
 
Found this on the internet it appears to be a resort/tourist attraction in Utah not a little slice of paradise.

http://www.mystichotsprings.com/Tropical_Fish/tropical_fish.html

Assuming that is the same place?

Mike
 

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