How I Achieve 30+ Ppm Co2 (diy) In A 55 Tank With Hob + Airstone

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Hey, so I've seen a few threads asking about CO2, and had a couple of people ask me, so I decided to make a thread on how I personally go about getting the CO2 levels I require in my tank.

Firstly, this is just the way that I do it. Other people may have a method that is more efficient for them, or even more convenient, but this works for me and after making some adjustments it fits my budget, and my schedule just fine.

Firstly, a bit of information about my tank:

55 gallon (48"x 12ish" x 20ish")
Penguin 350 HOB filter (carbon removed from filter cartridges)
130w CF (6700K & 8000K)
Flourite & Sand substrate
Fully planted, EI fertilizations to keep NO3 - 10ppm; PO4 - 2ppm

pH - 6.5
KH - 4
CO2 - 37ppm

You will need:
2 x 2l Soda bottles
3 x Check Valves
Airline Tubing + "T" connector
1 x Ceramic Airstone (micro bubbler). 2" long
Aquarium Sealant (pure silicone. Check your LFS for a small tube, only a couple of bucks)

Firstly, raise your water level as high as you can. You want to reduce surface agitation.

Secondly, hook up the airstone to the tubing and place on the opposite side of the tank to the filter. Run the tubing up out of the tank and down to the ground. Place a check valve on this end and then cut a length of tubing (a few inches) and slide onto the "T" connector.

Take the tops off your 2 soda bottles and drill small holes. Start with 1/16". The tubing should JUST barely be able to go through. You should have to kinda squash the tubing a little to get it in. Each piece of tubing should be about 6-9" in length. Spread silicone aquarium sealant around the seal the tube makes with the top, inside and outside (some people don't find it necessary to do this but I like to make sure the seal is totally airtight). Leave it to set for 48 hours.

Now, cut the tubing that will be inside the bottle so it is only about 1.5 inches long, and you should have about 6 inches on the outside. Cut at an angle, this helps any liquid that does get up the tube to drip out. On the ends of the tubes connect a check valve, then cut a small piece of tubing a few inches in length and connect to the "T" connector.

Your DIY CO2 unit is complete. Now you just gotta fill it!

CO2 recipe (courtesy of gf)
2 cups of sugar
1 tsp yeast (I use Fleischmann's active dry yeast - available at stop and shop)

I change each bottle weekly, one on wednesday and one on thursday. Take a 3rd soda bottle (I know ,I said you only needed 2, I lied) and on a tuesday/friday night/afternoon make up the formula and sit it aside. (don't screw the lid on! (unless you have a hole in it like i do with some tubing coming out as a pressure release valve)). The next morning before lights come on remove one of the bottles to be replaced and hook up the new one. When you unhook it just turn the bottle whilst holding the top and then turn the other bottle on. The check valves will keep the pressure in the other bottle the same.

Stock rotate your bottles. I keep the one to be changed at the back, then remove it, slide the front one to the back and hook the new one to the front. Saves confusion.

Clean your airstone regularly, I do mine twice a week, you might get away with it weekly, but you want the bubbles to remain as small as possible. If it gets clogged, the bubbles will get larger.

I think that's about it. Feel free to ask questions.
 
Good info. Thanks.

pseud, I forgot to ask you. Do you know why my bubbles come out in bunches (6 or 7 bubbles at a time) then nothing for about 5 seconds. Should the bubbles come out consistently, or does it really make a difference?

Thanks
 
Clean your airstone, or change it for a new one...

...make sure there's no gunk in the tubing... I highly recommend those cloud producing bubbles though. The bubbles it produces are easily less than 1 cubic mm.
 
Pseud,

So, if I wanted to, in addition to using the Nutrafin system, which I have, could I use a t connector to add a DIY bottle. Both units would be using the same bubble ladder.

Neat thread, sounds like a really cheap way to increase the output of my 15g when I come back from Christmas.
 
Yeah, I see no reason why not! How big is the nutrafin container though? I've never used one or seen one, but all I've really heard is negative things about them.... but yeah, I'm sure you could hook up two via a T connector to a bubble ladder...
 
pseud, you're a legend. Great info! Much appreciated.
I'm going to swao out my nutrafin units (basically, small, 1 liter maybe, bottles in fancy plastic with a large enough price tag, considering), for 2 2L bottles witha t piece into my 2 bubble ladders. Should work a treat.
My tank is 45Gal.

Thanks again,

Andy
 
Andy, you should be able to achieve 30ppm CO2 with the ladder. I've never personally used one, but I've heard pretty good things about the ladder itself, I'd be pretty confident that it'll work. :thumbs:
 
Pseud, I use your recipe but my bottles aren't hooked together, I never thought about doing that. I did purchase the Nutrafin Ladders instead of airstones (I started with the 2 inch fine airstone, but it kept cloging up) Since I travel full time, it was too difficult to keep em unstopped. I put one 2 liter per one ladder at each end of my 55 and it is really a treat to watch the bubbles. Just about as entertaining as watching the fish. LOL

I am stuck in the Denver airport now, so don't know what my CO2 levels are, but will test when (if) I ever get home!

Battery is about dead on the laptop as well.

I read about a Jello recipe that is supposed to be long lasting, anybody try that? Sounds messy, but maybe it smells better?
 
Yeah, I'm interested in the jello recipe also.. I think maybe I'll try it out in the near future...
 
Yeah, I'm interested in the jello recipe also.. I think maybe I'll try it out in the near future...


Call me crazy, but I actually like the smell of the yeast. Reminds me of baking bread or making pizza dough. Mmmmm pizza :drool: :drool: :drool:

But perhaps jello is even cheaper?
 
Perhaps it is! I don't mind the smell.. but I kinda like the idea of only changing it every 3 or 4 weeks, instead of twice weekly...
 
I kinda like the smell of the mixture when i change it....reminds me of beer.

Ok, so what doesn't remind me of beer :D
 
Good info. Thanks.

pseud, I forgot to ask you. Do you know why my bubbles come out in bunches (6 or 7 bubbles at a time) then nothing for about 5 seconds. Should the bubbles come out consistently, or does it really make a difference?

Thanks

it's the check valve causing the problem. when the pressure drops (on about day 5) it cant flow easily through the valve. it'll build up then burst through the valve in a short spurt, close then build up again etc... remove the valve or try a different brand. i dont use them for this reason (but it isn't as safe for disaster prevention obviously)

Yeah, I'm interested in the jello recipe also.. I think maybe I'll try it out in the near future...

one problem i can see here. with bread yeast it's not the sugar that runs out. it's the alcohol content in the water killing th yeast. theres always sugar left in my bottles when changing them so jello wouldn't make any difference. if you can get hold of champagne yeast that's a different story altogether.

Can you smell the mixture all the time? If I do rig this up it will be in my room.

no, if you can smell it your bottles leaking. with a sealed unit all the gas goes into the tank, you'll only smell it when you take the lid off to change the mix.
 

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