How Can You Tell If You Have Real Altum Angels?

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I bought 4 angelfish sold as Altum Angels . When I first saw them I though they were from my limited knowledge altums and the lad in the store who was selling them from his own collection of fish as he had got a pair said he bought them as Altums.
 
How do you tell/? I'll try and work out how to post a pic
 
 
It's not easy to tell for sure but I know a man that can. He's a breeder. As I don't think I'm allowed to link to other forums I'll just say uk angelfish ;)
 
The species Pterophyllum altum only occurs in its natural form, silver with black/brown vertical bars. It may be distinguished from the other two species by the sharper incline of the front of the head, the dorsal line, and a more pronounced dip or notch above the nose; I'm attaching an illustration of this which I assume is accurate, though I cannot now remember where I found this some years ago.  Also, the white space between the vertical bars is narrow than the bars themselves; the bars are more brownish and the intermediate bars are more prominent than on P. scalare.  I'm also attaching a couple photos of P. altum, the second by Jan Sevcik is easier to ID.  This is the largest of the three angelfish species at maturity.
 
I should also mention that there is an angelfish in the trade now that is often referred to by the common name as "Peruvian Altum" angelfish.  This is almost certainly not the species P. altum but actually P. scalare although it has something of a different body form.  The shape around the head is thought to not be reliable by some, so it may be best to examine the vertical stripes.
 
Byron.
 

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My LFS recently had some Altums for sale, unfortunately I had no room for them but they were Altums for sure. Much "taller" and more angular than scalare. There is a marked difference between the two species.
 
cheers chaps. I think they are Altum but am aware that there are strains that look like them without being them. These are lovely looking and more vertical than your bog standard angel whcih I like
 
These are the only pics I have so far
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