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Today is National Hang on the Back Filter day at my house. I've scavenged all the parts I can from HOB filters, and there is nothing left to rebuild with. So today, I receive two no known name Chinese filters and two used Aquaclears, a 1200 and a 70.

All of my tanks under 75 gallons have air driven sponge filters of various sorts, and with regular water changes, they are healthy environments with long lived, breeding fish. I'm happy with how they work, cycle wise.

I like fish from rivers though, and the cycle alone doesn't cut it. Power filters serve a useful purpose for my flow and current loving fish. I have all sorts, brand names, no names, canisters, HOBs, home made internal filters, undergravels... if it works, I keep it working. My longevity filters are aquaclears. In spite of their tendency to need a manual restart after power cuts, they're great. Usually at about 15 to 17 years of continuous use, they've needed to be combined - the parts from 2 or 3 filters become one and I get a few more years. That process has reached its end, as all the parts I have here have worn out.

A second type of HOB I like is a no name I'll never see again. A local store that went under in 2016 imported them for a decade and sold them under their own brand. I bought a bunch of these then $16 filters, rated for 50 gallons, and ran them on 20 gallon tanks for about 18 years max. They started dying at 12, and where I had 10, I now have one. They far outlasted the marinelands I had - proof that being well made beats being well branded every time.

And so, today, the newest no names will get the media from oft repaired filters and be running by this evening. The used Aquaclears are from a guy who just built a central sump system, and are still only 2 or 3 years old. They'll be workhorses. I'll keep scouring the used equipment listings online, and try to add a few more. When you enter my fishroom, you see a tank running on a 1970s aquaclear that came from a barn sale of stuff from an aquarist who died in the early 1980s. It sat in a box for decades, being perfectly good and from the look of it only used for a short time. Granted, it was boxed for around 40 years, but it runs like a charm, as antique plastic.

I pick my filtration for the fish in the tank, and for their needs. That, and I'm a cheapskate too.
 
I thought maybe you were calling me out on Mrs. e-trike, from the title of the thread😉

be careful with your address, @GaryE ... or "someday" you'll find a big box of the newer generation of aquaclear filters in your driveway... I have my last Tidal coming on my next Amazon order, and that will replace my last antique double filter, the aquaclears have all ready, all been replaced... the self start feature has proven itself worth it, allowing me to water change 1/3 of the water, in my tanks, without having to restart my filters... I typically run 2 HOB's per tank.. my small tanks just run sponge filters, so 7 bigger tanks, each with 2 filters is 14 filters... too many to have to restart them all, in the 20 minutes it takes me to do power water changes now... bulky filters, take up a lot of space, to keep around for "someday", and I can't make myself throw out the old Magnums, that I also still have... @GaryE ... "someday" they may find a way to your fish room....
 
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I haven't tried Tidals. They're around, but in our times of trade wars, they're a US company. All these devices are probably made in China, but local stores aren't embracing them with Fluval being Canadian owned. Things hit the fan right when the Seachem products came into our market.

I appreciate that thought, a lot. I keep getting requests for fish from US hobbyists, but navigating the border is impossible. They'd be hung up for days, and the costs would be crazy. Even dry good type things aren't as easy as they were. I think we're stuck just sharing information and online friendships, which could be a worse situation to be in.
 
I believe the Tidal's are made in Italy???
 
A lot of Fluval products are also Italian manufactured. We're at the point in our new world where consumers won't buy a product because of the parent company's location, so sellers don't want to be stuck with them. There be politics involved.

Plus I've never seen a cheap Tidal. They're too new. I'm a filtration scavenger!
 
I have a couple of aquaclear but decided long ago i didn't like them and when tidal came out - i was done with hobs. I mostly use sponges of different sizes and canister filters or sump for aquariums too large for matten.

However having read a lot there are three models of hob that seem to be very popular aquaclear, tidal and one from marineland (though one of there models is a dog).

The deal breaker for hobs occur on a 40b where it would dump water into the tank creating all sort of issues - this was about 10 years ago - eventually i replaced it with a eheim classic 2227 (another dog i would not recommend but very popular); i have my complaints with fluval but to be honest they always answer my emails with decent repsonses and their equipment has been very durable (and lets not forget their fish food) also when i had needed warranty service even a few days after it expired they have responded without issues providing replacement parts (the motor on my fx6 went bad after 3 1/2 years - warranty was only 3 years).

tidal is suppose to be good but i don't see a reason to experiment with one. Having said that don't get me wrong sponges are not a perfect solution as they do sometime require cleaning and these larger sponges are no fun to clean.

At least for the 650 i'm planning i will just recyle the water through 'filtration' - i.e, use a 10 to 20 gph drip system and the water will then go through a purification process and be reused as fresh water (sediment filter, uv filter, ro filter). As i write this i keep thinking wouldn't it be nice if i could automate this for all my tanks - after all it beats cleaning 20 13x16 sponges much less the 18x24 sponges.
 
I was thinking motorcycling, but I can't picture @GaryE on a hog wearing one of those German pilot helmets with a big chrome spike on top.
Huh. I'm one of those guys your conspiracy uncle warned you about. From the middle of a city, my favourite car was a Toyota Tercel, my bike has ten speeds and my favourite helmet was for hockey. I rode a dirt bike once, around the block to try it. It got me from here to there, but there are better ways to do that.

Some of these smaller HOBs have a modification I like. I took flat green 3M scrubber pads and super glued them onto the outlet. I then attached some java moss to them. As the filter runs, and pours out onto the pad, the java moss grows like crazy in the outlet without getting too much direct light. It forms clumps the size of a grapefruit which I harvest and use for breeding. Zen and the art of HOB maintenance. That's my kind of machine.

I'm into glue gun ownership.
 
I love ACs and wont use any other brand. My very first two are still in use today. My second I bought used along witha a 75 gal. tank and an assortment of other stuff in 2003. The second was maybe a yeare later. I had an TUGF on a tank and I discovered both swordtail and panda cory fry under the plate, That system was removed and I added an AC 200 to the tank.

AT my peak I had 28 assorted ACs running. The last one I got was a 500 aka 110 used. That was about 12 years ago. It is in use today.

Onw of the best features of ACs is atha morotors and intake tubes are used on multiple models. Change the design of the impellor and the same motor moved more water. I also believe in never being cought with a non-working filter because it needs a part. So I have always had on the shelf replacement parts for all models. The one exception was hte 110 as it was the only one of that model I have. ALl the rest were at least two (the 70 aka 300). This meany I needed fewer spare parts.

My very fist new AC 100 cost me $9.99 new. I bought almost all of them in them between 2003 and 2010. The prices were lot better back then. I tried other brands and disliked them all.

Over time I replaced a number of the ACs with Poret cubefilters and Hamburg Mattenfilters usually where I had multiple tanks and could run central air power. I have also replaced most of the AC sponges with Poret foam.

In all the years of using ACs I have had only one die because the case cracked. Usually the worst thing that I have happen to ACs is an impeller blade breaks off and I simply replace the impeller with an off my shelf spare. I will not even comsider any other brand of hang-on. But then the only canisters I will own are Eheim. And I loved paoring them with the Hydor inline heaters.

But, all of us use what we like and I do no hold other folks filter choices against them. What matters in the long run is the filters do their job well and last a long time. Mine certainly do. I am also a big fan of the Jehmco "Diaphragm Air Pumps: Professional grade continuous duty pumps Economical pumps with higher outputs" I used to have 2 of the model 15s and a model 20.
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As I began downsizing I sold two of the three. I replaced the diaphrams on 2. Ome which I sold and the other is still working. I ran 6 tanks on the model 20 https://jehmco.com/html/diaphragm_air_pumps.html#DAPMH8-15 and had a few spare outlets to run the hang on traps that use air power to circulate tank water through them. I also use then lines to power air stones where I want to move more water and help aerate tanks.

I paid abouyt 1/3 less than they cost today. I have spent a lot of money with Jehmco over the years I get my shipping bags, a lot of my forzen foods. a lot of Maylasian wood which they stopped selling, and few other odds and ends from them over the years.
 
Riding a bike in winter would be okay if not for cars. Your chances of getting run over are too high, and the margins of error are too small. The snowbanks reduce visibility and the ice is is always bad. Plus great breathing effort on hills in the cold? Nah.

My two cheap HOBs look good. Lychee brand - for all I know they could be a huge, respected brand in China. I'd like a slightly larger media compartment to have plants in the back of it too but the design seems sturdy and it was easy to ditch the 'buy it every month' media for a more sensible, longterm bio filtration. On the same day I got a used Aquaclear 110, and a 70. The 110 goes to a 75 gallon as a second filter, and the 70 currently there (which looks like a flower pot with snake plants in the filter compartment behind the sponge) will go over to a 25. I glued a 3m pad onto the outlet of the new old 70, and I'll weave in some java moss and fire it up on a 20.

Today, I'll trudge through a howling snowstorm, go through two doors and be in a warm tropical paradise of plants and fish. I'll look out one window at the sea and the storm, another at trees and snow, and a third out the back to deer sheltering in evergreens. Someone's been feeding the deer and they walk right up to people now. They like sitting in the sheltered area behind the fishroom and looking in the window. I feel guilty, all warm while they're freezing, but I'm not letting them in.

I think I'll use Chinese everygreens in the Aquaclears. Their roots don't cram the compartments.

This is my first influx of new (to me) power filters since well before the pandemic. I can see repairs on the Lychee filters will be impossible - they run as they are til they die. I hope they're good for 10 years. They should be, with such a simple design.
 

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