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I went to school today to my biology room, and saw 2 fishtanks. The first wat a 10 gallon with no filter and 2 yellow labs. So i looked closer and the tank was half filled and the water was yellow. I asked my teacher about them adn apparently they havent had a water change since may and he left them at the school for the summer without food or anything. The yellow labs are 3.5 inches and are skinny. The only decor is gravel and 1 rock. He feed them infront of me and they literaaly attracked the food like they have never seen food in there life. So i lookd in the other tank and if was filled and looked nasty and apparently the water was so bad the fish died from it. I tell you, those labs must be made of tough stuff.
 
Sad to hear that, it's cruel..and we call ourselves the most intelligent animal on the planet!
 
Sad to hear that, it's cruel..and we call ourselves the most intelligent animal on the planet!
We are the most intelligent animal on the planet. Things happen and things get forgoten. Regardless of what you may think, not everyone out there goes " ZOMG A FISHIE LETS SAVE IT ". Classroom pets never really get that great care (except some with younger kids). Older kids want something to watch durring class. Whoever took care of them probably said " Cost me more in fishfood than to just get new next year ".

Also, why do people post these threads? Seems to me like its a reason for everyone to come across as smarter and being better than the other people and complain about current fish keeping practices, rather than actualy managing to do something about it.
 
I asked my teacher about them adn apparently they havent had a water change since may and he left them at the school for the summer without food or anything.


Sounds like the teacher abandoned the fish for the summer. I could see this lack of responsibility coming from a few kids who might be in charge of the fish for the summer, get tired of it, and just not do it. A teacher doing this makes me wonder how he got his teaching certificate, and what he is teaching, or worse, neglecting to teach.

This sounds like a public school, you want to do something about it? Your parent's tax dollars pay this teacher's salary. Have them call the school, and ask the administration if they approve of this sort of practice. If they don't have a good answer, just tell them you'll ask at the next school board meeting.

This is how policy gets changed with a school, and is the proper way of keeping this situation from happening again.
 
I asked my teacher about them adn apparently they havent had a water change since may and he left them at the school for the summer without food or anything.


Sounds like the teacher abandoned the fish for the summer. I could see this lack of responsibility coming from a few kids who might be in charge of the fish for the summer, get tired of it, and just not do it. A teacher doing this makes me wonder how he got his teaching certificate, and what he is teaching, or worse, neglecting to teach.

This sounds like a public school, you want to do something about it? Your parent's tax dollars pay this teacher's salary. Have them call the school, and ask the administration if they approve of this sort of practice. If they don't have a good answer, just tell them you'll ask at the next school board meeting.

This is how policy gets changed with a school, and is the proper way of keeping this situation from happening again.
I noticed a few flaws in your post that I feel I should point out.
1. Kids won't be responsible, as it says in my post most just want something to occupy class time to get them to get out of actual work.
2. Last I knew keeping fish wasn't a requirement for teaching.
3. What he is teaching/neglecting? Last I knew Biology didn't focus on how to properly maintain a fish tank..
4. You immediatly say its a public school, however I'm sure any school can have the same problem. Just because you have more money for a private school doesn't mean your going to want to give a rip about the fish any more than anywhere else. Its still the same " just a fish " in mosts eyes.
5. Call the school- most likely you will hear " its some fish, get over it ". Something along those lines. I know plenty of schools give away goldfish at events/carnivals without any concern.
6. The school has bigger things to worry about than some 4$ fish, they would much rather solve a drinking problem then figure out why the fishes aren't in proper order.
7. Go to the meeting you will probably get " ok we will look at it ", the fish will be flushed and they will say they just died or where rehomed, again they have more pressing matters at hand. Other parents there probably have questions that apply to the entire school, not just 1 students complaint over a couple fish..
8. Policy gets changed? I don't think many schools want to waste space for 1 teacher's 2 pet fish in his/her classroom. There is no policy unless its a real problem.

Thoughts?
 
I have the same problem at my high school. There r 4 tanks; two 180gal, a 40gal, and a 5gal . I have actually taken care of all the tanks for one year, and one of the 180gal for 2 years. That one is in the worst condition it is freshwater, but has saltwater gravel and huge pieces of dead coral in it. Its filtration is a half assembled UGF, and one 60gal HOB filter. When I first started taking care of it I kept having problems with corys and goldfish swimming into the UGF and going up a pipe with a powerhead on it and getting stuck :crazy: . The fish were all brought in by students for extra credit and I know the 1st year there were about 60 fish in it. I tired my best to take care of the tanks but it was very hard to find enough time to do a decent water change on either of the 180gal. I even offered to take care of them during the summer but she turned me down, only to come back to school 3 months later too find out she hadn't touched anything, and all my hard work had been for nothing. Though I did save a few fish one year and took them to a trusted petstore and released a very emaciated yellow perch back into the lake :) .

So, if your teacher only has two tanks you could try too do the same thing I did and try to take care of them. They sound like they are a lot smaller then the ones I am dealing with. You can also try to teach your teacher about the tanks and fish and how to care for them :look: .

Good Luck,
Mikaila31
 
Thoughts;

1. Kids will be responsible, if taught responsible behavior. I have 3 children that are now adults, and responsible at that, it takes some work on the parent’s part. Ever hear of 4H? Try google on that one, and learn how responsible these kids are that just “want something to occupy class time to get them to get out of actual work.†Good teachers, just like good parents, inspire children to do better.

2. Fish keeping isn’t a requirement for teaching, but “he left them at the school for the summer†sounds like it is something the teacher should/could have been responsible for. This does not sound like a teacher who inspires to me.

3. He taught one student, a member of this forum, that he thinks it is ok to leave fish unattended for a few months. He just taught that neglect of a living thing, that was apparently cared for several months preceding this, is ok.

4. I did not say it is a public school, I said it sounds like one. Big difference there. My kids have attended public, as well as private schools. The public schools have a bigger budget, better teacher salaries, with teachers who care less about education. The private schools have less funding, smaller salaries, with more dedicated teachers. I’ve dealt with both, this is the difference.

5. If you think I haven’t called schools my kids have attended over many years you are mistaken. If I, or any of the other parents I know of got a response like that we would be taking a drive over. I, as well as others, have done this, it’s called responsible parenting, and getting involved in your children’s education, as well as the community.

6. Schools have bigger things than drinking to worry about, as well as smaller things than the negligence of animals kept on their premises. Everything from policy & procedure to board meeting minutes to projected budget are documents that the public has access to. They don’t know if the person reading any of these documents is Joe the barber, accountant, attorney, or peta activist. They have to be accountable for everything, and know it, this includes tanks with dead fish.

7. Ever been to a school board meeting? Everything from multi-million dollar budgets to frayed drapes in the teacher’s lounge is covered, at one time or another. If it is brought up, it will be addressed.

8. They want to change policy when it is a small problem, to prevent the small problem from becoming a bigger problem. They actually appreciate when a small problem is brought to their attention. In car terms they would rather change the oil now than replace the engine later. Any successful organization I know of operates in this manner.
 
Yeh its quite bad. I mean you wouldnt do that to a dog would you, or the class rabbit. When you buy fish and a tank you get a resbonsability.
 
I am still trying to get them off his hands. I figured that if i offer him a 30g filter( plenty of filtration) and some fish once the tank gets taken care of, that it should be a good trade. For some reasom the labs werejnt fighting but i think they are both male. Also, it appears that he didnt feed them today. It is a public school. He also said he has some saltwater tanks at home, and i dont even want to know what kind of condition they are in. I am a freshman, so maybe over the next 4 yeatrs i can turn him into a responsible fishkeeper. I just cant beilve that he did that. Ohh and t1tanrush, i am planning to do somthing about it and this is a good example of how not to take care of fish. He seems rather attached to the fish, but dont know how you can be attached to them if you lrave them without food, or proper water for 3 months. I really dont know how those fish made it, i suspect he has really high Nitrates, and really high ammonia, and really high nitrites, and it has been over a hundred degree's around here before. I will wait till moday and if the teacher hasnt done anything about the fish, i will offer him the deal and offer him my services on taking care of and cleaning the tank.
 
Just to let you know i have never seen my 5 electric yellows fight at all, The electric yellow cichlid (Labidochromis caeruleus) mbunas will be a good community fish, they are hardy little fish so thats most likely why they didnt die!


any other mbuna`s are aggressive towards other fish :sick:



hope that helps a bit :good:
 
Thoughts;

1. Kids will be responsible, if taught responsible behavior. I have 3 children that are now adults, and responsible at that, it takes some work on the parent’s part. Ever hear of 4H? Try google on that one, and learn how responsible these kids are that just “want something to occupy class time to get them to get out of actual work.†Good teachers, just like good parents, inspire children to do better.
The majority of kids do not participate in 4h, I know 1 person in 4H in my entire life, and by some its considered very nerdy. Sure some kids are responsible and have a love for animals, those people in 4h. However 98% of highschool students would rather spend their time on something else rather than figuring out proper fish care, they are distractions nothing more. Just like when I was in HS Bio there was a bug brought in from a pond and I watched it swimming around all class, that or slept.., not to mention even though yes the teacher can "inspire" the kids to do better, most still won't give 2 craps about how the fish are. That is promised.
2. Fish keeping isn’t a requirement for teaching, but “he left them at the school for the summer†sounds like it is something the teacher should/could have been responsible for. This does not sound like a teacher who inspires to me.
Left them at school, so? He might have been able to. What if said teacher lives in an apartment where he can't keep the fish at home? And was doing another job and wasn't able to find time to make daily trips to the school to do the fish maitence that many here suggest, he may have lived far away. Don't jump on the teacher without knowing the circumstances?
3. He taught one student, a member of this forum, that he thinks it is ok to leave fish unattended for a few months. He just taught that neglect of a living thing, that was apparently cared for several months preceding this, is ok.
K so maybe he does think its ok to leave them unattended? He taught 1 die hard fish lover. I bet in the majority of class rooms there is no one who is a die hard fish person and I bet in most classrooms the kids would want to flush the fish or kill it rather than provide care...
4. I did not say it is a public school, I said it sounds like one. Big difference there. My kids have attended public, as well as private schools. The public schools have a bigger budget, better teacher salaries, with teachers who care less about education. The private schools have less funding, smaller salaries, with more dedicated teachers. I’ve dealt with both, this is the difference.
You assumed it was a public highschool from " sounds like ". Its still a put down as you assume chances are its a public highschool.
5. If you think I haven’t called schools my kids have attended over many years you are mistaken. If I, or any of the other parents I know of got a response like that we would be taking a drive over. I, as well as others, have done this, it’s called responsible parenting, and getting involved in your children’s education, as well as the community.
Yes, and the majority of the "coummunity" will laugh at you for giving a crap about these fish. Lol take a drive I bet money nothing good is done. Calling school and driving over to have a meeting for a couple fish to most (including me on this one) is simply laughable.
6. Schools have bigger things than drinking to worry about, as well as smaller things than the negligence of animals kept on their premises. Everything from policy & procedure to board meeting minutes to projected budget are documents that the public has access to. They don’t know if the person reading any of these documents is Joe the barber, accountant, attorney, or peta activist. They have to be accountable for everything, and know it, this includes tanks with dead fish.
Again most wouldn't care about a fish. A gerbil dieing of neglect yes, but a few 3$ fish no one cares.
7. Ever been to a school board meeting? Everything from multi-million dollar budgets to frayed drapes in the teacher’s lounge is covered, at one time or another. If it is brought up, it will be addressed.
People care about frayed teachers lounge drapes maybe? Bring it up and I personally would laugh. Your going on 1 students word against a teachers. Teacher will win 98% of the time. Plus there could be good reasons for dirty water and lack of feeding, not to mention not everyone agrees with this forums rules for keeping fish. Even though I keep fish I do not agree with 90% of the fish keeping "rules" or "standards" used on this forum, doesn't mean I neglect my fish. A common person most likely won't see it as neglect.
8. They want to change policy when it is a small problem, to prevent the small problem from becoming a bigger problem. They actually appreciate when a small problem is brought to their attention. In car terms they would rather change the oil now than replace the engine later. Any successful organization I know of operates in this manner.
Yes because 2 fish living in "bad" conditions will eventually explode into a big problem? What is the worst that could happen? Another teacher gets fish for their class room? Really what are the odds of many teachers starting to keep fish in their class room? Then add in the odds of them all being bad keepers. Then add in the odds of them agreeing with this forum's standards for proper fish care...

Just trying to show you all the other side of things rather than posting " ZOMG FISHEZ IN DANGER MAN THE HARPOONZ! ".
 
Quit arguing! I told him 2 days ago that he needed his water changed and he said he know and was going to do it soon, but i dont how soon is soon for him. I dont think they will ast longer than 2 more weeks in that water. It is sad. Also, they probably wouldnt care about the fish, and he has been taking care of the fish personally. He like i said already hhas saltwater tanks, and he lives in my city, and he has been teaching for the past 16 years and i would think that he wouldnt live in a apartment. Also, I ahd a teacher at my old school get fish( she knows how to take care of them, and then a teacher saw it and unawre how to take care of fish bought a tank with a dwarf puffer and put livebearers in it, the tank was a 5 gallon hex. So that does go to show you that there is a possibilty that other teachers might want them also.
 
Yea a few teachers with fish tanks... Doesn't mean anything. Most will if they are interested just go buy some at wal-mart grow bored and get rid of them. Also, until you have tested the water quality via a test kit I refuse to believe its as bad as it seems.
How can I make this statement? I have a tank (an experiment just to prove some people wrong) that I have not done a water change on since I set it up. I have 1 filter on this tanke (20g tank and 40g filter) It contained 2 corys and 2 convicts (1 cory died recently it was old and large and wasn't getting food, meany convicts). Anyway. The only thing I have done is replaced all evaporated water with new water. Again this tank is several months old and the water is nearly crystal clear. (No I don't use test kits not believe in them.) So just because the water is yellow..........
Post some stats on the water that show these fish are in danger and maybe I might believe this however " yellow water " means nothing at all.

On another note I had a feeder goldfish die of ammonia poisoning in crystal clear fresh water. It was a feeder for my garter snake who wasn't interested and the water volume was around 6-8 cups....
 
On another note I had a feeder goldfish die of ammonia poisoning in crystal clear fresh water. It was a feeder for my garter snake who wasn't interested and the water volume was around 6-8 cups....
and that proves what? that you put goldifish in redicualsy small tanks and they die.
 
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