here she is

Im sorry to hear about your ray but im afraid your lfs guy is more or less right, rays are incredibly sensative creatures and can and do just drop dead for no apperent reason, especially when new. Very few shops will guarentee rays and those that do are usually specialist shops that charge a bit more, and even then most only offer a 24 hour guarentee.

If you decide to get another ray, or anyone else fancies trying them this is my advice to follow before parting with your money.

1) Always go to a retailer that holds rays as part of their everyday stock, the staff at these stores should be used to rays and will know more about their care and whether the ray is healthy or not. Look for a fat healthy active fish, if the pelvic bones near the tail are showing through the skin or the ray is lethargic then it is unhealthy.

2) Always buy a ray from stock, a ray that has been ordered in may have been moved up to 4 times in the last 72 hours before you get it home. Always buy a fish that has been in stock for at least 2 weeks, a good retailer will quarentine new rays for two weeks and will not sell them until they are feeding. If you see a ray that is new in stock and are worried it will be sold place a deposit on it and collect it in two weeks. Stress is a major killer of rays and most ray deaths occur in the first 24 hours from purchase.

3) Always ask to see your fish feed before buying it, if the retailer refuses do not give them your custom. If the ray feeds well (rays are real pigs and should get really excited when food is given) then it is a good healthy fish. If the ray refuses food or only eats a little dont buy it but go back and see them fed again in a weeks time, if it only eats a little again then it could be healthy but a bit picky and may be worth the risk if you are prepared to put the effort into getting the fish feeding properly. If the fish refuses food both times then do not buy it.
 
thanks for that cfc ur second point is exactly what i said to the mrs was the problem, we got ordered and it was not held at the shop, still we learn by our mistakes and it certainly wont put me off having another bash at keeping them as i think they are wonderful fish.
 
well good news went down to see the chap at the lfs and in return for what had happened he has given us 2 hysterix rays as he is going to stop selling them and only get them to order. We seen them feed(wow pigs) and they have been in his shop for best part of 5-6 weeks just got them home and acclimatised them and added them in the tank, removed some of the sand so its only about inch thick layer now and fingers crossed they will be fine its a male and female, so if they settle would love to look into breeding them once they are older. will post pics in a few days once all settled.
 
wow nice one.

what kind of size do they get too?

Glad it worked out pretty well for you :thumbs: descent bloke afterall!
 
well the 2 new ones seem fine so far alot more active, and thanks paul hes not such a bad bloke he has a really nice motoro left down there about 12inch diameter asking 320 if i know anyone who wants him 120 quid if i had another tank big enough i would take him.
 
wow sounds like he's got some pretty top stock in there!! The most expensive thing at the shop i work at is a £40 plec!! (which i have 1 of :D )

so how big do your new ones get? Can't wait to see the pics of them.
 
oooh i'm so sorry, she was gorgeous, so pretty :-( :byebye: :rip:

Awesome you were able to get those rays! Can we see pics??

That's really good advice you put CFC, if I were to get a ray I would never have thought to check for all that :thumbs:
 
thanks guys, paul these get to about 12" diameter, and i will be taking some pics today and get them posted, the mrs is thinking of names now.
 

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