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[DJ ArKaDaRkA]

ive just got home from work and one of my danios is slaying on the bottom on its side and when it does start to swim its going side ways

and my waters ok i did a water change yesterday even know i had no ammonia

 

[DJ ArKaDaRkA]

ammonia 0.25

nitrite 0

ph 7.6

 

[Schmill]

So what you are saying is your water is NOT ok...

You really want to do a water change to get that ammonia down to zero. Not sure if that is going to be the cause of this fish's problems or not, but it won't be helping.

 

[waterdrop]

If I remember correctly, you're fish-in cycling this tank? Even with good technique, its sometimes just not possible to save fish in fish-in cycling situations. Its also possible this was just an individually weak or diseased fish, or, especially since its a danio, it may have actually hurt itself through some accident while it was exploring. Danios are like minnows, normally part of enormous schools and a lot of their evolution is more about the overall population living, rather than every individual.. at least that's one way that sometimes help for thinking about it.

Assuming you feel you've been successful keeping ammonia and nitrite(NO2) always below 0.25ppm, you've probably been doing the best you could.

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[DJ ArKaDaRkA]

i only had 4 but this one seemed to have diffrent markings to the other 3 altho they all chase and attack eachother

 

[waterdrop]

Shoaling fish can be pretty rough on a weak member of the shoal. You could try him in a fry net (or rig up one of your fish nets at tank-top so it provides him with a little protected place, but I fear you'll probably lose him. If you notice symptoms in any other fish I'd probably repeat this question over in "emergencies" section and see if Wilder sees anything to take action on.

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[DJ ArKaDaRkA]

hes gone not moving or breathing im going to have to get him out

im an idiot i should have done a fishless cycle

do you think the damage to their tails could be somthing to do with this?

 

[waterdrop]

Well its just been the 4 danios, right? Remind us again of the tank size and feeding situation and are there many plants for hiding?

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[DJ ArKaDaRkA]

its a rekord 70 i have one real plant not sure what it is and mountain rock thing i bought of ebay there is 3 danios now and 1 cory (i know i need more) im feeding them tetra flake food just a little a day the light is on from 8 until 8

 

[waterdrop]

ok, if record 70 means 70L/18G volume, then that sounds like plenty of swimming room and 4 danios should not have felt crunched.. They are bound to be a bit nippier because with just a few tank inhabitants (which of course is a necessity when fish-in cycling!) they have fewer distractions. Once there are more tank inhabitants, they usually get more distracted and less nippy.

Remember, your constant goal in fish-in cycling is to be looking at the results of your morning and evening ammonia and nitrite(NO2) tests and deciding if a change is needed in either the percentage or frequency of water changes for the next day, right?

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[DJ ArKaDaRkA]

also my corys gills are looking slightly red and thats a sign of ammonia but ive just tested again and its still 0- 0.25 after a 50% water change

ok, if record 70 means 70L/18G volume, then that sounds like plenty of swimming room and 4 danios should not have felt crunched.. They are bound to be a bit nippier because with just a few tank inhabitants (which of course is a necessity when fish-in cycling!) they have fewer distractions. Once there are more tank inhabitants, they usually get more distracted and less nippy.

Remember, your constant goal in fish-in cycling is to be looking at the results of your morning and evening ammonia and nitrite(NO2) tests and deciding if a change is needed in either the percentage or frequency of water changes for the next day, right?

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yes most definatly ive no problem doing 2 or 3 water changes a day if its means keeping my fish healthy

 

[waterdrop]

DJ, you can do a second water change as soon as an hour after the previous one and 50% is a good percentage to work with. Many find that if they do a couple of "double" water changes like this (with associated gravel clean of course) that the levels will then "stay down" better for a while. You're on the right track and being responsible.. great!

See ya~ time to go do some swimming myself ~~waterdrop~~

 

[DJ ArKaDaRkA]

thank you

one more thing is there a all round deisese med that i could add just to be safe?