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Kittycat said:
I have a question...Do bettas and gouramis get along in one tank?

Also, how many male gouramis can I keep together in a 50 gallon community tank? Can't find any females. But the LFS were keeping the boys all together cramped in a tank, and they seemed to get along fine... :blink:
Bettas and gouramis do not get along, and they will often fight each other.

The reason the gouramis in the lfs are ok is because there are too many there. By overstocking them, they pretty much don't have any space so swim, much less to fight.

What gouramis do you want?

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Kittycat: I assume your talking Dwarf Gourami (since you mentioned you can't find any females). In a 50 gallon tank i'd keep 2 - 3 provided you have enough plants, decorations etc to allow them to form territories. You don't want them to be fighting all the time :lol:

However, just a waring, many Dwarf Gourami now carry nasty disieses such as TB due to inter-breeding. Although not all fish are infected a majority of those sold are which has led to many Lfs refusing to stock them. Personally, i'd try to stay away from these fish due to the problem i described above but if you do purchase some be on the constant lookout for any disiese. To reduce the chances of an outbreak keep water condition good (regular water changes, no extremes of Ph or hardness) and feed a varied diet :nod:

Good luck with your tank :)
 

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Well heres a list of gouramies, And a little info on them, so hope this helps. :)

Banded Gourami



Size: 4-5 inches
Tank Size: 30-40 gallons
Temper: Peaceful
Other Tankmates: Livebearers, Tetras, Danios, Rasboras, Rainbowfish, Barbs, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: With its beatiful colors, people cant resist bringing this guys home. This fish is an egglayer and a bubblenest builder.


Blue Gourami



Size: 4-5 inches
Tank Size: 20-30 gallons
Temper: Semi-Aggresive
Other Tankmates: Larger Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish.
Remark: This fish look peaceful with its calming blueish color. But might get a little aggresive on other fish. This fish is also a bubblenest builder.

Thick Lipped Gourami



Size: 3-4 inches
Tank Size: 20-30 gallons
Temper: Semi-Aggresive
Other Tankmates: Larger Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish.
Remark: This fish is suitable for a community. It may get a little aggresive for territory when its breading. This fish is also a bubblenest builder.

Dwarf Gourami







Size: 2-3 inches
Tank Size: 10-20 gallons
Temper: Peaceful suitable for a community tank
Other Tankmates: Larger Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish.
Remark: This is a very peaceful fish. Very nice colors, neons red flames. This also a bubblenest builder like all gouramis.

Chocalate Gourami



Size: 2-3 inches
Tank size: 20-30
Temper: Peaceful
Other Tankmates: Larger Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish.
Remark: This is a shy fish, and very small. This fish is very peaceful so nice coloring, u might even try to eat him.

Pearl Gourami



Size: 4-6 inches
Tank Size: 30-40 gallons
Temper: Semi-Aggresive
Other Tankmates: Larger Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: This fish is usually peaceful, but when breeding comes. He might get aggresive, males are known for there red throats. like other types of gouramis this fish is also a bubblenest builder.

Opaline Gourami



Size: 4-5 inches
Tank Size: 30-40 gallons
Temper: Semi-Aggresive
Other Tankmates: Larger Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: This fish sometimes is confused with the blue Gourami, AKA three spot Gourami. This fish is a bubblenest builder.

Gold Gourami



Size: 5-6 inches
Tank Size: 30-40 gallons
Temper: Semi-Aggresive
Other Tankmates: Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: This fish is the albino morph, of the opaline gourami. This fish is a peaceful, fish. It may be aggresive and harrass other fish. This is a bubblenest builder.

Moonlight Gourami



Size: 5-6 inches
Tank Size: 30-40 gallons
Temper: Peaceful
Other Tankmates: Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: This fish was just introduced to the world, but with its popularity this fish is now common, This fish is suitable for a community tank. Its very peaceful and looks beatiful in dark tank. This fish is also known as the Cheerful Fish.

Sparkling Gourami



Size: 1-2 inches
Tank Size: 10-20 gallons
Temper: Peaceful
Other Tankmates: Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: This fish is so small but with a beatiful coloration, its consider a tiny rainbow.

Croaking Gourami



Size: 2-3 inches
Tank Size: 10-20 gallons
Temper: Peaceful
Other Tankmates: Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: People confused this gourami, withthe sparkling gourami. But Its obivious that the croaking is a little bit less coloring. This fish does make a croaking sound.

Kissing Gourami



Size: 3-10 inches
Tank Size: 40-50 gallons
Temper: Semi-Aggresive
Other Tankmates: Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: This fish is un-predictable, Some are highly aggresive others like mine, are very peaceful. This fish is one of the hardest fish to sex. The kissing action is two males fighting over territory.

Green Kissing Gourami



Size: 3-10 inches
Tank Size: 40-50 gallons
Temper: Semi-Aggresive
Other Tankmates: Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: This fish is un-predictable, Some are highly aggresive others like mine, are very peaceful. This fish is one of the hardest fish to sex. The kissing action is two males fighting over territory.

Giant Gourami



Size: 12-26 inches
Tank Size: 200-300 gallons
Temper: Semi-Aggresive
Other Tankmates: Large Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: This fish is a Hard fish to keep it grows extremly fast. They may grow to 2 feet long and weight up to 12 pounds. Not a begginer fish.

Licorice Gourami



Size: 1-2 inches
Tank Size: 10-20 gallons
Temper: Peaceful
Other Tankmates: Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: Not much info on this fish. But this gourami has to be one of the most beatiful fish. Its color its calming and cool. This fish is a nice addition to any tank.

Dwarf Honey Gourami



Size: 2-3 inches
Tank Size: 10-20 gallons
Temper: Peaceful
Other Tankmates: Livebearers, Danios, Rainbowfish, Barbs, some more passive Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: I know I should have put this with the dwarfs but I dindt. But anyways this fish coloration is beatiful. Gold and black reminds me of a gang.

Snakeskin Gourami



Size: 7-8 inches
Tank Size: 30-40
Temper: Semi-Aggresive
Other Tankmates: Large Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: This fish is a very sporty fish, since people like fishing them. This fish might get aggresive with other gouramis and other fish.

Combtail Gourami



Size: 5-6 inches
Tank Size: 30-40 gallons
Temper: Semi-Aggresive
Other Tankmates: Large Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: Im sorry but the only picture I could get was this one, This fish is not that popular in the U.S. But in other countries its kept as a respected fish.

Paradise Gourami



Size: 4-5 inches
Tank Size: 30-40 gallons
Temper: Aggresive
Other Tankmates: Large Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: Some people confused this fish with a Betta AkA Simease Fighting Fish. This fish lives in cold water and in tropical, Its consider very aggresive with other fish and gouramis. Its colors are very beatiful.

Spiketail Gourami



Size: 3-4 inches
Tank Size: 20-30 gallons
Temper: Semi-Aggresive
Other Tankmates: Large Cichlids, Loaches, Plecos, and Scavenger Catfish
Remark: This fish is known as a swordtail gourami, Or a spiketail Paradisefish Its tail is beatifully spike.


Well this all I can write this took me 3 hours to do, So please use it. if mods or admins see this please PIN this topic. It might be helpful to newbies. I wrote all this words, but those pics are not mine. Thank You From ur Gourami Lover 8)

I would like to thank all y sources from the pics, And I got my info from a fish handbook.
 

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Sorry, I meant dwarf gouramis. I'm planning to make my 50 gal a sort of community tank. I put a betta in there temporarily, though, until I can get him a smaller home. The gouramis are presently in a 10 gal for quarantine, so I think I'll have enough time to put the betta elsewhere by the time they move to the community.

What are the symptoms of TB? Is this contagious? I have heard that the dwarfs are more susceptible to disease and such, but it's the only kind I've seen around, so I took the chance. I'm not sure if the D.Gouramis in my region are in the same situation, I'm located in Asia--but then, that's where most LFS over there import from, right?

Joker, lovely pics. :) What do you call the color of the third dwarf you posted (orange body)?
 

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I'd just like to say that the opaline gourami and gold gourami are color morphs of the blue gourami, I don't know why the opalne has a different size put down :p
 

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Nisha said:
Thanks! They're very helpful links. I just got myself 2 male gouramis and was looking for more info on them.
Should be pinned! :D :thumbs:
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I love my cobalt gourami, The irredecent vertical red and blue striped are breathtaking.
 

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A lot of people seem to think that just because a fish is not called a 'gourami' it doesn't belong in the same group. Having said that, paradisefish (macropodus opercularis) also circulate under the common name of 'paradise gourami'.

Anyway, by deffinition, a 'gourami' is a fish from the family 'osphronemidae' or sometimes 'belontidae' (depending on how up-to-date your sources are :p). The family is devided into a few subfamilies and these further devided into several genera. These not only include the common 'trichogaster', 'colisa' and 'trichopsis' genera from which we get three-spots, pearls, dwarf, honey and croaking gouramies, it also includes fish often not considered gouramies such as those belonging to the genera 'betta', 'macropodus' and 'ctenops' which includes the paradisefish as well as the various betta species including b. splendens and, the aptly named frail gourami ctenops nobilis.

Another related family of fish are the 'anabantidae' which include the ctenopoma and anabas genera. A lot of the fish found in the 'gourami' family were once classed in this family. These are not gouramies but very similar in many ways.

So to answer your question, paradisefish have always been gouramies. It's the common name (which is entirely irrelevant) that confuses matters. They could be called blueberry pies and they'd still be gouramies. :p

edit: because not all the species names were in italics ;)
 

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So the betta people Have a topic of site's for betta's so Lets have a topic of Gourami Info. Just post the link in here And I will edit this message.

Sites/Pages

Practical Fish Keeping | Go for gouramis - Article
Breeding gouramis
About.com Articles & Resources on Gouramis

Well heres a list of gouramies, And a little info on them, so hope this helps. :)

Banded Gourami





I just purchased a tattoed gourami (that's what they told me it was). Does anyone have any information on them or a picture. I took one here at home of it. I will post it later.
 

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It would be better to post that in the main section rather than in this thread. I'll google 'tattooed' gourami and see if it turns up a scientific name meanwhile. But a picture would be best.
 
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