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[amazingbioloboydp]

SCORE ONE FOR THE "TERMINATOR"

 

[Bol]

I have no desire to get into a debate about morals, but I do feel I should point out some possible misinformation in Synastic's post:

It's painful for the fish and or it causes them great stress

Glo-fish are genetically engineered, true.

But, as far as I know, in the case of Glo-Fish there is no injection done to living fish (with the possible exception of the first few they engineered). They live just like any other zebra danio, and I doubt there is any extra added "stress" to the Glo-Fish.

 

[Synastic]

I have no desire to get into a debate about morals, but I do feel I should point out some possible misinformation in Synastic's post:

It's painful for the fish and or it causes them great stress

Glo-fish are genetically engineered, true.

But, as far as I know, in the case of Glo-Fish there is no injection done to living fish (with the possible exception of the first few they engineered). They live just like any other zebra danio, and I doubt there is any extra added "stress" to the Glo-Fish.

Hey, I don't wanna make anyone look bad, but I will defend myself. Yes, you're right in the case of glofish they're not injected with anything. They are genetically engineered (I don't think that's any better). Those fishes aren't natural, mother nature made it like that for a reason. What they're doing is adding some type of cell and or changing the dna structure. That dna structure can become totally unstable, affecting the fishes in ways that we don't even know about. I don't think those people think about the long term affects. What if that strand or cell, over time mutates?? (all that is painful and causes them stress).

Another point I wanna make is. What if some kid back in Japan has a tank full of those fish. He is walking along taking a short-cut thru the rice patties, oops he falls and those fishes go flying out. Now you have those glofish fishes, who are native to the rice patties swimming in there. Well now there are endless possibility that can happend and the one that scares me is the glofishes pooping in the rice patties. What if the poop changes the structure of the rice. Hey I eat rice I don't wanna eat some type of tainted rice. I don't wanna have a major case of the runs ) or something even worse. I am sorry, but when you change mother nature ways well then that's a no no.

Why don't those companies do something productive? Why, don't they look for cures? Their is alot of money to be made in helping people. Why, go for the easy money and cause problems?

(And that's my 2 cents.)

 

[ladynaoko]

my friend came over yesterday and one of the first things to pop out of her mouth was "hey! why don't you get some of those glowfish to go in your tank??"

She didn't realise they were GM fish and went nuts when I told her.

 

[Aquariamystic]

Well at first I saw these in some science supply catalogs I order for dna testing but i guess some one saw $$$ in there eyes and thought pet trade *Shruges*

 

[Bol]

No problem, Synastic. Everyone can have their own opinion about moral issues. I'm not even saying that I approve of GloFish. But, I do think it's bad when any opinion is formed on a basis of incorrect facts, and by having incorrect information widely posted on the internet, others may use that to form "incorrect" opinions.

So, I just wanted to point out that not every fish is injected (in fact, by now, probably none of them are, since they just breed them naturally from existing stock), so it's arguably not nearly as "cruel" as, say, individually dyed fish.

In that same vein, from what I'm seeing here, I'd also like to point out that these GloFish were not originally created just to make a buck from aquarists . The makers' original (and still valid, as far as I know) intent was to produce a fish that was capable of detecting pollutants in water. While this does possibly bring up other moral issues, in a way the reason behind this undertaking was to "do something productive" and "find a cure".

Again, I think differing opinions are good, but opinions based on incorrect information (even when those opinions are unanimous) are probably a Bad Thing.

And, if anyone is interested, there is (not surprisingly, considering the controversy involved) a lot of information posted on the official GloFish Web Site. Is that information "the truth" or just "corporate spin"? /shrug. I guess everyone will have to decide for themselves.

 

[Synastic]

No problem, Synastic. Everyone can have their own opinion about moral issues. I'm not even saying that I approve of GloFish. But, I do think it's bad when any opinion is formed on a basis of incorrect facts, and by having incorrect information widely posted on the internet, others may use that to form "incorrect" opinions.

So, I just wanted to point out that not every fish is injected (in fact, by now, probably none of them are, since they just breed them naturally from existing stock), so it's arguably not nearly as "cruel" as, say, individually dyed fish.

In that same vein, from what I'm seeing here, I'd also like to point out that these GloFish were not originally created just to make a buck from aquarists . The makers' original (and still valid, as far as I know) intent was to produce a fish that was capable of detecting pollutants in water. While this does possibly bring up other moral issues, in a way the reason behind this undertaking was to "do something productive" and "find a cure".

Again, I think differing opinions are good, but opinions based on incorrect information (even when those opinions are unanimous) are probably a Bad Thing.

And, if anyone is interested, there is (not surprisingly, considering the controversy involved) a lot of information posted on the official GloFish Web Site. Is that information "the truth" or just "corporate spin"? /shrug. I guess everyone will have to decide for themselves.

I see your point of view and see where your coming from. Also, I learned something new from you, thanks.

 

[Opcn]

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