Getting Ready For My 90 Gallon

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mbriggs84

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I'm currently cycling my new 90 gallon tank and I'm pondering all my options. I'm extremely excited being that the other tank I have is only 29 gallons and it house some small tropical community fish. I'm looking forward to getting something a little... well... BIGGER. I would like to go with a central/south american region tank. I was considering an oscar, but all my research is showing that they really should have something longer than a 4 foot tank. Anyone have any opinions on this? or any other stocking options. Could I consider several single cichlids? Which ones? Thanks!
 
there are lots of options. here are some large/r fish to consider:

blue acaras
keyholes
earth eaters (geophagus sp., satanoperca sp., guianacara sp.)
mesonauta sp.
angelfish
discus
cupid cichlids
severums

there are also some more aggressive options with central american cichlids (convicts, jd, honduran red point, salvini etc.)

depends on what u like really
 
Some of these fish look pretty amazing. The problem is that the easiest (and closest) lfs is a petsmart. The only S. Amer. cichlids they have seem to be the more aggressive type. They have:
Oscars
Jack dempseys
Red devils
Blood Parrots (Not really a fan of these)
Black convicts

I Like the the Oscars, dempseys, and convicts. Is there any combination of these that would work? or should I pick one and have some other tankmates?
 
What size tank are we talking here. You mention 90G (US i'm assuming), then you mention Oscars do better in 4ft+ tanks, so is yours not 4ft? can't really recommend anything untill the dimentions are stated. A 90G could hold some beautifull 'big' cichlids, but if its 90G taller rather than longer then its not going to be able to house some of those big fish. It's the footprint of your tank (Length/width) that determines what can be kept in it more so than the total volume of water.
 
sorry, it is a 4ft tank. I've heard a single oscar could be housed in a 55 gallon 4ft tank. But I've also heard anything smaller than 5ft is too small. I guess I'm just trying to get a general consensus as to what people feel. Alot say that 90g is plenty big enough, but is it cruel to keep one in 4ft?

actual dimensions- 48"l x 18"w x 24"h
 
I saw mattlee's Oscar (Keith) first hand in the flesh before he got rid of him, and he was mahoosive. Easily 14" tip to tail, this to me would be ill-advised to keep in an 18" wide tank. As a general rule i like to keep fish that will only attain an adult size which is half the width of the tank, no more. It gives the fish room to swim, and explore their surroundings as they would in the wild. Going in and among rocks ect. In a 18" wide tank a fish of this size will barely be able to turn around on itself, yet alone navigate obstacles. Thus why alot of peolpe say an Oscar aught not be kept in anything less than a 6x2x2 long term, which makes sense to me. Your average Oscar may attain a total length between 10-13" in general (i believe), so a tank that is 24" wide really is about the minimum i'd concider.

There are plenty of other fish that are far more suitable to what is essentially, a standard 4ft tank. If i was to pick one out from meguro's post it would be the Cupid Cichlids. They are a part of the Gymnogeophagus range, more commonly known as slightly smaller geophagus cichlids. They have bags of character and attain a smaller size. Cupids get to about 6" i believe. I had one, he was the last one left in a shop tank and he was there for weeks. I took him home, and it was easily one of the best fish i ever bought, gave me hours of fun. I found mine to be so inquisitive and very bold, not at all shy.

If your tank is 18" a fish that grows to about 9-10" is probably your best bet if you want something bigger. But with bigger fish you get less in a tank, so a degree of compromise on size is best i find, that way you get more of an interactive community/group. You mention you like the Jack Dempsey, so i feel obliged to say my part on this wonderfull fish. Males can attain a total size of 10", albeit i have found somewhere between 7-9" more commom. Females, like alot of fish, attain a smaller size than the males, with female Jacks averageing 6-7", maybe more but i've never seen a large female of such size. They are far less aggresive than the stigma they are given, as back in the day when they were described by science there weren't such fish as Red Devils, and Green Terrors about, they hadn't been found. They are far more timid IME, and can actually be bullied by smaller cichlids. Don't get me wrong there are Jacks that are as pugnacious as foretold, but in the same way that we have those who are bullied, and those who bully. At the end of the day they are a rather large cichlid, and can more than defend themselves when required, and equally just throw their weight about in general, so care should be taken. They are a very rewarding cichlid to keep, like most, and are fascinating to watch in any case. I would recommend you get a pair, or get a group of about 5 and grow them on. When a pair form sell on the others and have a go at breeding them :) Good fun!

If you struggle to get hold of fish in your area there are plenty of business' that deliver to your door. I'm sure the US market is similar to that of the UK in that respect. If that scares you somewhat you can always enquire at what LFS' you do have, you may be pleasantly surprised what they can do for you.

James
 

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