German Blue Ram

[blah111]

what is the smallest tank a German blue ram can be put in... also could i keep a male Beta and frog with it?

 

[Questions?]

i would recommend a betta with it, or a frog. the smallest i would do, by himself with no other cichlids and smaller fish, is 15 gallons. if you want a pair i would do 20 gallons. if you want to pairs i would do 40 gallons, and so on

 

[Jenste]

I think questions meant to say "I would NOT recommend"

Bettas and gouramis are a no-no. They will not get along in the same tank as they are too closely related.

What type of frog? Is it an ADF or ACF? If you don't know then further research is definitely needed. Neither really belong in a set up with fish, but for different reasons.

ADF and ACF are both nearly blind, relying on other senses to interact in the tank. They both scavenge for food, but the ADF, due to size, cannot out compete fish for food. By the time the ADF can sniff it out, most is eaten due to the fish. ACF on the other hand will end up eating the fish and the food.

ADF are webbing on their front and back toes, eyes flush into the sides of their face. They grow UP TO 1.5-2".
ACF have webbing only on the back feet, eyes on top of their heads. They grow up to 6".

 

[eaglesaquarium]

Blue rams are cichlids, not gouramis.

But, I still wouldn't do it with a frog or betta.

 

[Brahmza]

I have 4 GBRs in a community tank stocked with 3 tinfoil barbs, 10 tiger barbs, 10 bloodfin tetras, 6 green cories and a pleco. Depending on the size of rams you'll be getting, tiger barbs might work in a 20g or 40g setting. Though, ive heard of them being aggressive and nipping fins, mine don't. In a 40g setting, you could get a few Pearl Gouramis. Almost anything peaceful would be fine with GBRs as long as water conditions are met.

 

[eaglesaquarium]

Tigers can be more nippy in smaller numbers. Yours are in a good number, so they behave better.

GBRs generally prefer (require, really for their best interest) far different temperatures than most other fish, so I would be very careful about what you keep with them from that standpoint.



I also wouldn't keep tigers in anything less than a 30 gallon - they are "only" 3" but a chunky 3", and are also quite active. And when you add the fact that you require at least 6 of them, but preferably more, 20 gallons starts to be small, especially if you plan to keep more fish with them. I would consider a 20 long, but never a 20 tall.

 

[Jenste]

I'm rather shamed at myself. I have a GBR, I know they are not anabantoids. I don't know why I read Gourami instead of GBR. I am on vicoden due to an injury...maybe that's why I went wonky.

going back to bed now...being on the comp is obviously not working well

 

[Questions?]

I think questions meant to say "I would NOT recommend"

Bettas and gouramis are a no-no. They will not get along in the same tank as they are too closely related.

What type of frog? Is it an ADF or ACF? If you don't know then further research is definitely needed. Neither really belong in a set up with fish, but for different reasons.

ADF and ACF are both nearly blind, relying on other senses to interact in the tank. They both scavenge for food, but the ADF, due to size, cannot out compete fish for food. By the time the ADF can sniff it out, most is eaten due to the fish. ACF on the other hand will end up eating the fish and the food.

ADF are webbing on their front and back toes, eyes flush into the sides of their face. They grow UP TO 1.5-2".
ACF have webbing only on the back feet, eyes on top of their heads. They grow up to 6".

oops, yeah i meant NOT

 

[KrystaK]

Your basic answer is 20 Gal.

I wouldn't keep one in anything smaller. But you can have a pair in 20 gal.
I have a Male GBR in with six Pygmy Swimming corys and a small BNP (Small because it's a baby, it won't be small for long)
GBR generally like acidic water, around 6-7. And like warmer temperatures, about 82 F.
You have to consider what else would do well in such a tank before you go out and buy. I would say No to the Betta as they're generally a solitary pet and do best when on their own or when in a large tank so they can have their own territory. I have no experience with frogs