From The African Rift Valley To The South American Amazon

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JohnSM

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Hi everyone,
 
In the many years of being in this great hobby I've kept just about everything. I started out by getting my first tank when I was about 6 or 7 years old when my dad brought me back a 24" aquarium from one of his pals from the pub! He had kept fish but was giving up, so I got the tank..... yeah!
It came with a small clear plastic filter with a bit of floss and charcoal (remember them!!!) and I quickly set it up and put some goldfish in. What did I know about cycling a tank??
 
For as long as I can remember I have always loved animals that live in or around water, I think I must have been going on about wanting to get fish or frogs when I was young and that's why my dad got me that tank.
 
It didn't seem long before I wanted some tropical fish and I remember my mum taking me to a flower shop in Cumnock (my home town) which had fish tanks up the back and I bought (or should I say, my mum bought) a heater. We had a look at the fish for a while and soon after traded in my goldfish for some neons and guppies!
 
And that's how my addiction started!!
 
Since then I've kept and bred loads of different kinds of fish, live bearers, Malawi cichlids and even some frogs 
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The fish I've kept the longest is mbuna. I spent a long time breeding them and selling them to a few of the aquatic shops up in Glasgow. They are so easy to breed and very enjoyable to keep.
 
A few years ago I decided to sell all my mbuna on and set up a reef system. I bought a much larger custom built tank with a sump, halide light unit, skimmer, Tunze pumps and everything else I needed. A small fortune later I had a very successful and healthy system to enjoy.
I really loved that aquarium but for a few reasons it was time to break it down and sell all the gear.
 
We had a young daughter and another on the way and my wife and I decided that we would want to take the children on holidays as much as possible while they were young and this meant leaving the reef whilst we were away. We didn't have anyone who knew how to look after the tank that we could entrust to check on it and I couldn't just ask my mum to come round and feed them, and top up the RO, and check the PH, and clean the skimmer....... etc etc lol 
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So it had to go!
 
I had a short brake where I didn't have any fish tanks at all 
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 and in this time I focussed on playing my drum kit. But, I really missed it soooooo much! Spoke to my wife and she really understood where I was coming from (think she secretly likes them a bit) and said that I could go ahead and get another aquarium.
 
So without further ado, I ordered an ND Aquatics 5x2x2 tropical tank. I was going for mbuna again (can go away for a week or two and not worry about them so much) and started looking to see who sold the best quality fish.
 
Bought myself an Eco-Lamps KR90FW LED light unit (freshwater, full spectrum), Fluval FX6, 300w heater, Tunze Nano stream 4065 and coral sand (dechlorinator, meds etc as well of course). Once the tank was here I set it all up, had collected rocks from a local beach and started cycling the tank.
 
Had the mbuna for a while, about 10 months or so and started to look at discus. I just fancied something a bit different and much less aggressive lol You are just so limited when keeping Malawi cichlids. Sold on the mbuna a couple of weeks ago and empted the tank quite quickly.
 
After giving discus a consideration and did a lot of research, I realised that there may not be that much of a difference to the issues I faced with my reef tank and maintenance whilst away from home. But I really love the look of an Amazon biotope and the variety of fish that can inhabit such a system. I've kept planted tanks before but not to the extent of using CO2 units or special substrates. So I think I'll look to keep Java fern, moss and Anubias (I know they're not from there but I'm not looking at a strict biotope tank) as these are much less demanding species but still look great! Got some great pieces of various bogwood and driftwood - Redmoor, Sumatran, Mopani etc. I'll attach the plants to them.
 
I think I'll get a large shoal of Cardinal tetras, Rummy Noses and various Corys, I've got a couple of Bristlenoses (not a pair though) and will probably add a few small plecos too. Angelfish will be the largest of the fish and will probably get a variety of colours and patterns. Other options I'll see along the way!
 
Let me know of any other fish/plants options for this kind of set-up you keep or recommend 
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I'd add pics but don't know how to as my pics are not on another website.
 
John.
 
 
 
 
 

Oh, forgot to mention, I've got an Amazon 3D background ordered and just waiting for delivery 
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This tank sounds like it's going to be lovely! My only concern is the angelfish possibly eating the cardinal tetras. I've heard in some cases if you raise them together it can work though.
 
Some other hardy plants would be cryptocorynes. :)
 
Can't wait to see the tank and 3D background!
 
Hi :) sounds like music to my ears this tank!! I am a huge fan of Amazon themed tanks and biotopes :) My tank is an Amazon only tank as well :)
 
The biggest selling point for me for South American fish are the Cichlids, and how easy they are to keep with other types of fish. It depends on what you want in the tank though given you want smaller schooling fish like the Tetras etc bigger fish like the Severums and Chocolate Cichlids are off the list but the dwarf cichlids are still a good contender things like Apistogramma Panduro would work great as a hareem on the bottom of the tank with the Angels up top. Cupid Cichlids are nice as are Laetacara. The other thing I like about South American tanks are the different shapes and types within each category so as well as the tetras other characin options could include things like headstanders and hatchet fish. I have a group of 5 Annostomus Ternetzi and they are fantastic, great colours bright yellow and black with splashes of red, hilarious behavior and a different shape to the rest of the tank.
 
Wills
 
Hi guys,
 
Thanks for your input!  My background is coming at the end of the week, really excited!! Lol
 
Here's the background I'm getting - http://aqua-maniac.com/40-amazon-background
 
I've been soaking the various woods that I have picked out for this tank, an even split between Redmoor root and Sumatran driftwood. I love the look that these woods will give to the tank!
 
I've pretty much got a picture of how I want it to look in my head but the only thing I'm not sure of being able to do is getting the roots coming from the top of the tank so that it looks more like the roots are coming out from the top of the river bank. I was thinking of maybe using epoxy or silicone and sticking them to the underside of the brace bars, but I'm not sure that those will attach to the wood due to it being porous!
 
If anyone has any suggestions on I can get the desired look it will be greatly appreciated! 
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The pencil fish are great wee fish and I'll be definitely considering getting some, I'll also be looking at getting a few Apistogramma Agassizi "fire red", they are superb looking!! Would they be compatible with Mikrogeophagus Ramirezi?
 
Cheers,
John.
 
It looks lovely! Will look even better in the tank :3
 
Hmm...could you possibly tie the wood to it using fishing line?
 
Thanks Ninjouzata, can't wait to see what it's like in the flesh - so to speak lol
 
With the brace bars I have, that wouldn't work unfortunately.
 
I've tried to upload images using URL from my photobucket but I get an error message saying "extension not allowed on this community".
 
How do I upload pics to my posts please?
 
So I've just watched the upload pics video for the forum 
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Here goes, hope it works......
 















The pics show the tank when I first got it, when it was a Malawi set-up and showing the Redmoor and Sumatran roots/driftwood in the kind of position I'd like to have them in.
 
Let me know what you think!
 
Ninjouzata said:
My only concern is the angelfish possibly eating the cardinal tetras. I've heard in some cases if you raise them together it can work though.
 
 
 
Yes this is one of my concerns too and I've had success in the past by doing exactly that, raising them together. What I'm planning on doing this time is adding all the smaller tetras first as well as the Apistos, bristlenoses etc (think I'll get a decent sized shoal of Bleeding Hearts too) long before getting a few Angels. The Angels will be fairly small too so hopefully things will be ok!
 
Any thoughts? Opinions? Advice?
 
Wood looks good, have the other pieces sunk yet?
 
Sorry I meant to respond on this but got distracted and then forgot! :(
 
The wood wasn't floating, I had it wedged into place with the cover glasses so that I could have an idea for placement to give the look of roots coming through from the top of the river bank. I don't think I'm going to be able to achieve this look though!
 
My 3D background comes today so I'll post up some pics once it's here.
 
John.
 
What about using suction cups attached to your cover glass?
 
Lovely tank, I have a South American theme as well :)
 
Alm0stAwesome said:
What about using suction cups attached to your cover glass?
 
Lovely tank, I have a South American theme as well
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Thanks, I had thought about this but I'd probably mess it up attaching the suckers to the wood lol
 
Here's a few pics of how the tank looks just now ( no fish in yet ) - let me know what you think 
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The tank is fully mature and ready for fish. When I had sold on the mbuna I emptied the tank and moved all the filter's media and placed it in my Juwel Rekord 800 quarantine tank, This ensured that none of the bacteria would be lost and would be immediately ready for when it went back into the FX6.
 
During the set-up of the amazon tank I had the FX6 running to polish off the clowdy water due to the fine sand being disturbed a lot. I only used filter floss in the filter during this period.
 
John.
 
I like this wood a lot better grounded, personally. And it looks really lovely! Some arches for the fish to swim through :)
 
The background is gorgeous! When do you think you'll be adding fish?
 
Thank you Ninjouzata, yea I'm really pleased with how the wood looks at the moment and once the amazon swords grow a bit more I think it will look great.
 
The background is incredible! The detail and workmanship is amazing, well worth the £160 I paid for it! It totally transforms your tank 
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I'm planning on visiting a couple of shops this coming Monday ( wife permitting 
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 ) Thinking of getting some tetras at this time.
 

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