Freshwater Sole.i Know Wrong Section ,just Lookin For Info

[fishfishfish]

http/www.aquariumfish.net/catalog_pages/...er/brackish.htm
would i be able to put 1 of these with my puffers.
any info is helpful

 

[James B]

what type of puffer is it going with.if its a mbu i would think not but a sap you might be able to.

what type of puffer is it going with.if its a mbu i would think not but a sap you might be able to.

 

[nmonks]

The sole advertised there is Trinectes maculatus, also known as the common hogchoker sole.

http/filaman.ifm-geomar.de/summary/Speci...ary.php?id=4260

These are subtropical (rather than tropical) fish that inhabit fresh, brackish, and marine waters. Hogchokers can survive months, maybe years, in freshwater as they are regularly found tens of miles inland. Nonetheless, best results come from keeping them at SG 1.005+ and providing them with a sandy substrate and not-too-warm water.

I personally wouldn't risk one with the more aggressive pufferfish, like Tetraodon spp. At SG 1.005 you could keep a South American puffer, which will do perfectly well in low-end brackish, but that wouldn't be the ideal situation for these pufferfish which do prefer freshwater. A better approach would be to set up a tank for the soles for a while on their own, and grow them on a bit. Later on, you could add some subtropical livebearers or killifish from the same habitat (like Florida flagfish or mosquitofish).

Soles are quite difficult to keep. They are nocturnal, and feeding them requires [1] you give them food at night and [2] you don't let other fish eat that food before the sole. Bloodworms and tubifex are very popular foods, especially as live foods.

Cheers,

Neale

 

[Fella]

I keep a true freshwater sole in a puffer tank and he is entirely ignored. This is because he is rarely seen during the day (or at night...). I feed plenty of bloodworm every few days so that there is some left over (I over filter the tank so it's not too much of an issue), and he's beena solid size since I've had him.

The puffers I've successfully kept him with are South American Puffers and Carinotetraodon irrubesco.

 

[nmonks]

That's a cute fish, Fella. How's he doing?

Neale

 

[Fella]

That's a cute fish, Fella. How's he doing?

Neale

He's doing really well. I don't really see a lot of him, as his colour matches the sand perfectly, the most I usually see is a pair of eyes, or the outline of his shape. I get the feeling he'd be less secretive if I were to use moonlights and to get him some buddies, but I found him in a backstreet petshop where there was only a single specimen available, else I would have purchased at least a trio.

He eats when the lights are out, that's for sure. i've never actually seen him consume anything, I think he filters through detritus at times for leftover bloodworm that the other fish either ignore or can't get to. The other fish in the tank are quite active feeders (halfbeaks, puffers, oil catfish, plecs) but he's made it thus far.

I Initially I was worried that the plecs might try and feed on his slime coat, however, his skin is so rough it's like the rasping skin you find on dogfish and australian "leatherjackets". It's very rough to the touch, and I think that works in his favour.

He's a great fish, very secretive, and since that photo, I certainly haven't seen him on the glass.

 

[nmonks]

I've heard that this is why they don't get whitespot. The mucous stops the parasites getting into the fish. I hope they trade this species a bit more often: it's probably the best for tropical freshwater tank, yet all too often you see things like hogchokers which aren't exactly ideal.

Cheers,

Neale

I Initially I was worried that the plecs might try and feed on his slime coat, however, his skin is so rough it's like the rasping skin you find on dogfish and australian "leatherjackets". It's very rough to the touch, and I think that works in his favour.

 

[demonmagus]

what's the latin name for the true freshwater sole?

lovely fish

 

[nmonks]

Brachirus harmandi

http/www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=26873

It's distinguishing feature is the mottled undersurface. There are several other Brachirus sold, but this is the best bet for life in freshwater. Of these, I suspect the brackish/marine Brachirus orientalis is actually the most common. My personal experience of Brachirus orientalis is that sadly it only last about 6 months in freshwater. It was sold as Brachirus pan, something it certainly wasn't. Identifying these soles is very difficult.

http/www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=25290
http/www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=25167
http/www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=8312

Cheers,

Neale

what's the latin name for the true freshwater sole?

 

[fishfishfish]

i wanna keep 1 in with my figure 8s which arent aggressive at all

 

[Fella]

I wouldn't consider it unless you had sand.