Fish Of The Month

[Inchworm]

Inch....what would happen if we left if up to individual forums? EG....if each mod decided to have one in their forum? If we dumped the responsibility onto individual moderators, would THAT ease the issue? I'm just trying to think of a way to do this...a halfway point. Perhaps the individual forum members could select a method? Eg..let's say we tried this in our nano section....could it be done? Darkstar, Inch, Oohfeeshy....thoughts?
SH

It would be chaos!

 

[andywg]

I compltely agree. people WILL vote for mods, if they enter, or people like andywg who are "higher up the social ladder". no two ways about it. They will see who has entered, find someone the know/look upto and *click* all done.

Higher up the social ladder? Moi? Time to stop sniffing the solvent cement

I doubt I would ever win tank of the month, certainly not until I learn to finish making stands before putting tanks on them

You are right that people would vote for the tanks of either mods, or a member they believe helps out a lot. However, such a thing will occur in any "democratic" style of choosing, very few of us will choose a tank purely based on its aesthetics or its ergonomics. Many other factors will affect our decisions; some consciously, others unconsciously.

I think you'd have to be pretty shallow to do that, and why should the people who do fall into that category spoil it for the rest of us?

Because if you had one very popular member or two that were always winning then there would be little point in a competition. So one could say that they can spoil it whether there is one or not.

Anyway, that's life. It happens in all types of competitions all over the world from a TOTM competitions on this forum right through to things like government elections. Surely that shouldn't mean that we stop having competitions all together?

Indeed not (see above) and that is why I believe it should be given a shot to see how it pans out. If someone really wants to cheat in it then let them. Is it not hypocritical to criticise people for caring so much they cheat to win, but then for us to get so upset that someone cheated in our just for fun competition that we shut them down entirely?

I don't know. Maybe others could suggest their thoughts?

Theres always someone who will vote for the wrong reason or try to spoil it. Theres nothing we can do about that. I don't think it's a reason for the competition not to even get off the ground.

Agreed

I subscribed to the TFF newsletter when i joined the forum and i've never seen a newsletter yet.

Also, I really like OohFeeshy's idea of including article writing. It would be a great asset to the forum.

And here I have a thought. How about sourcing the newsletter straight from the forum? It could take out a lot of the actual creation of articles work. Every month or so the Newsletter team could pick three or four threads (including pins) that have some really noteworthy points in them and perhaps post a précis of the points made/found. As well as this they could pick a tank they liked a lot (or one that members have voted for) and we could then have some more detail of said tank/system (or even members tanks in general - ideal for members such as CFC) in the letter as well as extra photos of the systems that drive it. That could take up TOTM and then FOTM could just be the picture. To weed out cheats just ask for a second picture of the same fish and/or the high res version to be emailed.

How about it, combining the newsletter with the xOTM compos. Two birds, one stone, much death.

 

[n3ont3tra]

I compltely agree. people WILL vote for mods, if they enter, or people like andywg who are "higher up the social ladder". no two ways about it. They will see who has entered, find someone the know/look upto and *click* all done.

We could make it so that the names aren't displayed, and the person has no idea of who they're voting for.
Just a suggestion.

 

[caboose_122]

or have a board of elected members or mods that evaluate the TOTM entries, let them choose the best, and have the resulting entries be showed to the public and let them vote? just my though, and i agree, if people know that its a mod, or some one more famous or with more posts then others would be voted for instead of other entries from some one with lets say 30 posts

 

[BigC]

We could make it so that the names aren't displayed, and the person has no idea of who they're voting for.
Just a suggestion.

Thats a step in the right direction.

 

[steelhealr]

Honestly..there is still pride in one's work, time and efforts. What a shame to not be recognized for have a tank that turns out to be a work of art. SH

 

[backtotropical]

Honestly..there is still pride in one's work, time and efforts. What a shame to not be recognized for have a tank that turns out to be a work of art. SH

The winner could be revealed by the mods after the voting was finished. It would only need to be anonymus during voting to ensure people vote for the tanks / fish rather than the person.

 

[n3ont3tra]

The winner could be revealed by the mods after the voting was finished. It would only need to be anonymus during voting to ensure people vote for the tanks / fish rather than the person.

Yep. I meant to add that on my post.

 

[poopsydrew]

Honestly..there is still pride in one's work, time and efforts. What a shame to not be recognized for have a tank that turns out to be a work of art. SH

Like the others said it could be revealed after, but why do you need public recognition? Maybe you do SH, but I dont have my pride and ego tied up in winning any sort of contest. Isn't knowing you won and people appreciate it enough?

One should be proud of what they have done, not proud if others are like what they've done if you ask me.

 

[sunpirate2u]

Well...i haven't saw that this thread had gotten so big, anyways, I didn't know that TFF already had a FOTM . If I started this thread i'm going to end it. Its no use argueing over this.

 

[steelhealr]

Like the others said it could be revealed after, but why do you need public recognition? Maybe you do SH,

Ho boy...talk about quoting things out of context and completely misreading something. If that was the case, then, why even make an entrant anonymous and then reveal it later? Why not then leave them anonymous? Why not award the Nobel laureates anonymously? Then...why even have a competition at all?

That comment is totally out of character..not only for YOU poopy's..but to throw it at me like that, especially since I am here trying to listen and trying to help. Your remark was uncalled for. I can now see why many are against this.

HOWEVER, I WILL post a poll on this so that the consensus can be seen and perhaps better allow the other mods to see what is going on here. SH

 

[poopsydrew]

Like the others said it could be revealed after, but why do you need public recognition? Maybe you do SH,

Ho boy...talk about quoting things out of context and completely misreading something. If that was the case, then, why even make an entrant anonymous and then reveal it later? Why not then leave them anonymous? Why not award the Nobel laureates anonymously? Then...why even have a competition at all?

That comment is totally out of character..not only for YOU poopy's..but to throw it at me like that, especially since I am here trying to listen and trying to help. Your remark was uncalled for. I can now see why many are against this.

HOWEVER, I WILL post a poll on this so that the consensus can be seen and perhaps better allow the other mods to see what is going on here. SH

SH-Your points are valid and you are correct, the comment was a little out of context and thrown at you. I apologize for the way I came off, I obviously got a little heated up there My only point was that the point of the contest shouldnt be to fulfill someones ego trip or something along those lines.

Anyway, I apologize if my post was aggressive and thanks for opening this up and allowing me to respond, that was kind of you

Drew

 

[Nina]

The only issue I would see about the anonymous posting is that if that person is in a clique then the other members will know whose that tank is anyway therefore not really helping with the "not voting for friends" lark.

However, regardless of how the competition is run, how mods it, decides on the pictures etc someone will always get upset and will claim that so and so cheated - you get that with every competition. In saying that though, I have no objection to an xOTM and feel that what happened before happened and there is nothing you can do to change it. But things change and what harm is there in trying it again. If it doesn't work then it can always be said that it was tried and failed rather than being so negative about it.

 

[OohFeeshy]

HOWEVER, I WILL post a poll on this so that the consensus can be seen and perhaps better allow the other mods to see what is going on here. SH

You should realise that people will say yes to anything... Just look at all the threads about 'can we have a section for this aspect that nobody actually cares about?' and a dozen replies saying 'yeah, that's a great idea!' when it blatently isn't.

 

[steelhealr]

I agree. I think we've beaten this up and will close this. There is a poll out there that I started so that others can put in their 2 cents. This can be continued there. Sharing with members tho', I think the overall mod consensus is 'anti'.....Again, the TFF Newsletter was trying to highlight individual members and do 'stories/interviews' with them and, perhaps, instead of a tank of the month, it was a 'featured tank' of the month. Something to think about. I liked the first Newsletter and I hope llj, our new mod, will keep it going. As for me, I may consider it in my own section....but...we'll see. SH