hi there im from nottigham in the uk sorry if my spelling not good , i have guppies and swardtails in my tank and i am loosing fish faster than i can see i have a 190lt corner tank with live plants and bogwood ,the fish have loss of tails and white lips i have try fin rod no joy and got up this morning to white stuff on my glass and fish dead all over my tank can some one plz help me cheers steve
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jewels 190 trigon ,300 watt heater ,ethim 2217 filter ,ethim air pump,live plants ,boogwood,gravel.
2 plec 1 royal,1 blue phatom
about 9 male and female guppies
2 swardtails
2 clown loach
red tail shark
3 corys
was told by pets at home it was fin rot and to do a 50% water change and add fin rot number 8 ,did all this and all my test was spot on but still losing fish with white stuff on my class did have a lot more fish that wot left and its not the fist time it happen to me but did sort it with some other stuff but it didnt work this time after looking all over the net the only think that was coming up was cotton mouth and fin rot so if the some think i can use to sort tank then it would be a great help to me as i have at tank full of babbies fry in a another atnk that will be ready to go in my main tank but dont wont to add if im still lossing fish
2 plec 1 royal,1 blue phatom
about 9 male and female guppies
2 swardtails
2 clown loach
red tail shark
3 corys
was told by pets at home it was fin rot and to do a 50% water change and add fin rot number 8 ,did all this and all my test was spot on but still losing fish with white stuff on my class did have a lot more fish that wot left and its not the fist time it happen to me but did sort it with some other stuff but it didnt work this time after looking all over the net the only think that was coming up was cotton mouth and fin rot so if the some think i can use to sort tank then it would be a great help to me as i have at tank full of babbies fry in a another atnk that will be ready to go in my main tank but dont wont to add if im still lossing fish
Hi shepo, it really could be "columnaris". Unfortunately I can't help you much with how to treat or so. There is lot's of info on the net. The fin rot, white lips/cotton mouth and the fast rate the fish are dying all sounds like this nasty disease.
i aws losing the fish over the last 3 days and then when i got up white stuff its like slime it come of my glass easy with a quick claen but it just come back and hour later do u now if melafix is any good as it say it treat it all but dont wont to use it and waste more money cheer steve
Do a google search for columnaris+white mouth+fin rot, etc..
Melafix won't do a thing if your fish have columnaris. It is highly contagious disease and does need strong meds. Hopefully someone else will be able to help.
It does help if you post a picture of the fish for better identification of the problem
Edit: Not sure what the white stuff on the glass is. Maybe your tap water is not right as well and contains high amount of heavy metals. How much water dechlorinater do you put?
Melafix won't do a thing if your fish have columnaris. It is highly contagious disease and does need strong meds. Hopefully someone else will be able to help.
It does help if you post a picture of the fish for better identification of the problem
Edit: Not sure what the white stuff on the glass is. Maybe your tap water is not right as well and contains high amount of heavy metals. How much water dechlorinater do you put?
i use wot it say on the bottle lol i use protozin last time and it did the trick but as the other meds in the at the mo not sure how to remove them and try protozin again but as i was typing i just took anothe fish out with liked fine but was dead so im stumped now ive tryed to add pic but it wont let me
I copied the rules for posting picture below:
When you want to show people your gorgeous tank, or your favorite fish, there are a few ways to do this. The first way, and probably the easiest way, is to go to the Member�s Aquarium and Fish Pictures section, and start a new topic there. Then click the 'Browse' button, on the bottom of the New topic page, and find the picture you want to show. You can add a few pictures per post. Another option is to use a photo hosting site, such as www.photobucket.com or http
/imageshack.us/ . Those are free hosting sites. Once you have your pictures on there, you can copy the URL of the picture. When in the reply box, click the little icon that looks like this. Paste the address in there, and it should show up as a picture!
You need to add carbon to your filter. They sell it in all LFS, just make sure you get the type that fits.
When you want to show people your gorgeous tank, or your favorite fish, there are a few ways to do this. The first way, and probably the easiest way, is to go to the Member�s Aquarium and Fish Pictures section, and start a new topic there. Then click the 'Browse' button, on the bottom of the New topic page, and find the picture you want to show. You can add a few pictures per post. Another option is to use a photo hosting site, such as www.photobucket.com or http
/imageshack.us/ . Those are free hosting sites. Once you have your pictures on there, you can copy the URL of the picture. When in the reply box, click the little icon that looks like this. Paste the address in there, and it should show up as a picture! You need to add carbon to your filter. They sell it in all LFS, just make sure you get the type that fits.
i have carbon but took it out for the medsI copied the rules for posting picture below:
When you want to show people your gorgeous tank, or your favorite fish, there are a few ways to do this. The first way, and probably the easiest way, is to go to the Member�s Aquarium and Fish Pictures section, and start a new topic there. Then click the 'Browse' button, on the bottom of the New topic page, and find the picture you want to show. You can add a few pictures per post. Another option is to use a photo hosting site, such as www.photobucket.com or http
You need to add carbon to your filter. They sell it in all LFS, just make sure you get the type that fits.
To remove the old meds and start over, you need to put it back, as long as it is still functioning as these may not do anything after a few days, depending, so a new one is best
It must be horrible netting dead fish out. I really feel for you.
It must be horrible netting dead fish out. I really feel for you.
If the fish die, you may as well shut the tank down, sterilize it properly, before starting again. If you want to save your fish, the treat them. Post a picture to get a diagnose.
There may be a way of treating without too much investment. If it is columnaris, lowering the temperature down to slow the bacteria may help additionally. It does not like salty conditions either, but you have a pleco and corydoras that do not tolerate salt, but they should be fine for a treatment like that for a while. I have personally used salt with my pleco and he was just fine. It is worth a try though, since it is an emergency. Do a large water change and if adding salt, make sure you melt the salt properly first, then add the dechlorinated salt with water very slowly. Max dosage 1tbsp per 5 gallons.
That's until you get a proper diagnose and treat with proper meds. Don't worry about the java moss for now.
There may be a way of treating without too much investment. If it is columnaris, lowering the temperature down to slow the bacteria may help additionally. It does not like salty conditions either, but you have a pleco and corydoras that do not tolerate salt, but they should be fine for a treatment like that for a while. I have personally used salt with my pleco and he was just fine. It is worth a try though, since it is an emergency. Do a large water change and if adding salt, make sure you melt the salt properly first, then add the dechlorinated salt with water very slowly. Max dosage 1tbsp per 5 gallons.
That's until you get a proper diagnose and treat with proper meds. Don't worry about the java moss for now.
so that should work out about 7 spoon as it 190 lt and is sea salt or normal salt the best and can i add my carbon back into my filter cheers steve
It's a 190 litre, but water volume maybe less when you take into consideration gravel and decoration.
190 litre is 50 gallons, so no more than 10 spoons, but make sure you add it very very slow and watch the scaless fish. Columnaris bacteria is more vulnerable for treatment in higher temps, but also kills the fish faster, so so slowly decreasing the temperature will give you more time. And man, I can no way confirm that this is what you have in your tank.
If you eventually come out with survivors, make large water changes to take the salt out.
Don't put normal salt, sea salt is better. It shouln't contain iodine, as it will kill your fish.
190 litre is 50 gallons, so no more than 10 spoons, but make sure you add it very very slow and watch the scaless fish. Columnaris bacteria is more vulnerable for treatment in higher temps, but also kills the fish faster, so so slowly decreasing the temperature will give you more time. And man, I can no way confirm that this is what you have in your tank.
If you eventually come out with survivors, make large water changes to take the salt out.
Don't put normal salt, sea salt is better. It shouln't contain iodine, as it will kill your fish.
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