First Cycle Log

August 5

Ammonia 2ppm
Nitrites 5+

August 6

N/A

August 7

Ammonia .25 *RE-DOSING TO 3ppm*
Nitrites 5+
 
August 8

Ammonia .50 - 1ppm
Nitrites 5+
Nitrates 5ppm
pH 7.6

It seems the Nitrite is converting approximately 2ppm of ammonia in 22 hours. Tomorrow I expect ammonia to be at 0ppm.
 
August 9

Ammonia 0-.25ppm *RE-DOSED TO 3ppm*
Nitrite 5+ppm
Nitrate 10ppm

pH 7.6
 
Welcome to phase two!


If the nitrites sit off the chart for a full week, do a water change to lower them, other than that continue what you are doing. :good:
 
Yep, I'm really ecstatic about it! :beer: :pepsi: Thanks for your advice. How big of a water change do you recommend doing?
 
August 10

Ammonia 0ppm
Nitrite 5+
Nitrate 5ppm
pH 6.6

HI everybody! I need help. I'm not sure what is happening here. My Nitrate dropped in half. Also my pH dropped. Should I do a water change? Do you have any Ideas why my Nitrates dropped?

EDIT: I did a 90% water change to bring up the pH of the water. Now I just need to sit back and wait. :)
 
As a biochemist you will enjoy this:

If you are using the API test kit, the 2nd bottle uses two reagents. One is a liquid, the other is a powder that is for all intents and purposes insoluble. So, you need to shake the living crap out of that bottle before using it, and then shake the living crap out of the test tube after using it. Basically, don't trust the reading you get from the nitrate test. It is there as a general guide, not to actually identify a problem. Focus on the ammonia and nitrite levels.





As far as the water change amount, do a 100% water change. The bacteria live in the filter, not in the water. The cycle seems to "pause" after a water change sometimes, but the research I've seen shows that the N-bacs (nitrosoma) prefer much lower levels of nitrite than other bacteria (nitrobacter). The nitrosomas are best suited for trace levels of nitrite (< 0.17g/mL), whereas the nitrobacters do best in levels much higher than that. If your goal in doing a water change is to lower the nitrites, then you might as well remove every bit that you possibly can to bring the levels back in line with their preferred level. Otherwise, just let it go as it is and allow it to fall on its own. (As waterdrop stated about lowering ammonia during phase two, this is also not in the thread on fishless cycling. But, based on the research from Dr. Tim Havonec, it makes sense to try to culture the environment that the nitrite bacs prefer as much as possible, without going crazy with water changes. After all one of the best features of the fishless cycling process is that you aren't required to do a lot of water changes, like in a fish-in cycle. The other benefit, of course, is that you are not poisoning fish during the process.)
 
Interesting... Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I did realize some of this but not in the aquarium. The same concept applies but when you actually "grow" them it is a little different. I did a 90% water change to bring up to pH levels. I would've done a 100% but I didn't get to see your post. The pH is back to normal and I'm going to conduct another test in the morning to see the effect of the water change. Hopefully the nitrite level have at least gone down a little.

Thank you for your help. :)
 
August 11

Ammonia 1.5ppm
Nitrite 0ppm
Nitrates 20ppm

pH 7.6

What does this mean? Does this mean that my bio-filter can handle 1.5 of ammonia and nitrite in 24 hours? That means tomorrow morning the ammonia and nitrite should be zero. Hopefully I'm Really close to the end!! I'm wondering if my water change brought the Nitrites down enough to give my Nitrates a chance.
 
I wouldn't put much stock into a single reading. You need to watch the trends. It is possible that the bacteria can handle 1.5ppm ammonia and the subsequent nitrite in 24 hours, but it is also possible that it cannot.


What day are you on? Many cycles last 6 weeks or longer. 6 weeks is usually considered to be the mean time for an unseeded fishless cycle.
 
Today was my 17 day from the start of adding ammonia. I had 2 mystery snails in there before for 14 days before I decided to fishless cycle so it has actually been 4 weeks. My cycle has been considered fast but it is moving along quite nicely.
 
Okay everybody. I did the calculations and my tank's bio-filter can process 1ppm of ammonia every 10 hours so that is approximately 2.? in 24 hours. I just need my bio-filter to double and I'll be set! :D
 
August 12

Ammonia 0ppm
Nitrtites 0ppm
Nitrates 30ppm *RE-DOSED TO 3ppm*

pH7.6
 
You are ready for 12 hour testing. Slowly start to raise your ammonia dose back up to 4-5ppm. (And keep a close eye on your pH. With the nitrite being processed now, your nitrates will go up and it will eventually drive your pH down. If your pH drops to 6.0 it will stall the cycle. You can either add baking soda to raise the pH and buffer the water more or do a water change once the pH drops under 6.5.)


:good:
 

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