Endler or end of days: Please identify

[Lynnzer]

Got these from fleabay. My son called me to say he found some Santa Maria Endlers at a good price so I told him to just make payment for them. He doesn't know a cod from a trout so he wouldn't have been able to identify from any fleabay pictures but the item description does say Santa Maria endlers.
I want some so I can prevent in-breeding with thos I already have. Instead I have something that I don't have any idea what it is.
This is the true Endler :

And this is what I got including many fry and a couple of mature females.


So, what the heck is it?

 

[Deleted member 149562]

I stand to be corrected and no doubt will be

Double Swordtail Endlers?

 

[Deleted member 149562]

Reason behind suggesting double swordtail is after seeing this....the tails are extremely long and, frankly, look exactly the same as yours do

10x Double Sword Tail Endler Guppies Fish - 2.5CM* 8 MALES | eBay

Hobbyist breed Double Sword Tail Pair Endler Guppies 2.5cm Males - Our Ongoing 2018 Strain. Our Aquarium tanks are tested for these regularly. We do not import and have raised these Endler Guppies over generations to get the best line breed.

www.ebay.com

 

[AdoraBelle Dearheart]

We need the expert here! @emeraldking we need ya!

I have no idea I'm afraid, @Lynnzer , but I do like the fish! Both the original one you wanted, and the ones you got. Do you like the ones you bought, or are you a bit disappointed? It's always a bit tricky buying fish from ebay. I've been tempted a time or two though.

 

[Lynnzer]

It's a problem really. I don't have a tank to put them in. Or at least between my 8 tanks there's not one of them I would want them in.
The tank I had in mind was the one with the blue eyed redfin rainbowfish that already has a male in want of a wife.
They're just in a pyrex bowl at present until I get time to do something about it. Problem is too, is that I'm doing a few difficult changes to the tank room including movein the furniture to paint the walls in Midnight Navy (Crown) laying new waterproof self adhesive vinyl tiles and many other things.

 

[TwoTankAmin]

Have a look/read here https://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/poecilia-wingei/

Endler's Livebearer was actually discovered in 1937 by Franklyn F. Bond before being rediscovered by John Endler in 1975 in Laguna de Patos, Cumana, northeastern Venezuela. It was found coexisting, but not interbreeding with, a wild form of P. reticulata. Both species are native to this area of Venezuela, but P. reticulata was much less common in areas where P. wingei was thriving. This is thought to be partially related to habitat type, as guppies are usually found in colder, running water…

Laguna de Patos (the type locality for the species) was originally a brackish lake which was formed by being cut off from the ocean by a sandbar. Over time the water has been altered by runoff and is now freshwater. When P. wingei was rediscovered the lake contained very warm, hard water which was very green due to high concentrations of algae. The fish are now thought to be extinct here as a garbage dump has been built adjacent to the lake and the water has since become polluted.

The Santa Maria is a hybrid, I believe, and is a cross between the wingei and reticulata both Poecilia

 

[emeraldking]

Got these from fleabay. My son called me to say he found some Santa Maria Endlers at a good price so I told him to just make payment for them. He doesn't know a cod from a trout so he wouldn't have been able to identify from any fleabay pictures but the item description does say Santa Maria endlers.
I want some so I can prevent in-breeding with thos I already have. Instead I have something that I don't have any idea what it is.
This is the true Endler : View attachment 165283

And this is what I got including many fry and a couple of mature females.


So, what the heck is it?

Your Santa Maria endler is the one you've showed first. And actually, the complete name of this hybrid strain is "Santa Maria bleeding heart endler". It's a Japanese created hybrid strain. But I also have to mention that there is a pure Campoma endler nr.6, that does look a bit similar and as far as I know, that endler is also used to create this hybrid strain. So, it's not a true endler.
The second photo shows a black bar endler. In captivity, both swords become elongated like this specimen when one doesn't cull in the regular black bar line. And nowadays, crossing it with guppy blood, you'll see that the swords become more elongated as before. For the wild version of the black bar looks indentical but both swords are shorter and the topsword is about a third of the bottomsword.
With black bar endlers in the higher segment and shows we don't call them doubleswords because they suppose to have double swords by nature already. So, it doesn't need the extra labeling of "double swords".

It seems that you've been tricked...