Do you use protection??

Do you use any protection while maintaining tanks?

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Cian McLiam

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Hi all,
I was just wondering if anybody out there is worried about 'catching' something from their fish tanks, or even worse, the fish catching something from you! :)

If your fish were ill, would you feel safe putting your hands into the water, or would it even cross your mind?

Personally, I dont use gloves except if I have cuts on my hands, or if I have been using chemicals at work. Is there anyone out there who has a hang up about touching fishy stuff? I have never seen fish TB in any of my tanks, but I hear this is one disease that can possibly transfer to humans. Does anyone know of others and is this a concern to any of you out there??????

Ken
 
No, I just clean my hands before hand and make sure there's no soap etc and dive on in there!!

I don't always bother washing my hands after being in there unless going into another tank. If the fish can live in it, then theres no reason I can't put my hands in it.

:D
 
Ive never bothered wearing gloves, i usually just give them a wash before going about any tank maintainance, with the fish i keep you dont really want your hands in the tank anyway :eek:

I once heard from a old workmate that his father caught a strange tropical disease from his fish tank from starting a syphon by mouth (which i still do all the same :crazy: ). Apperently he started to get huge body ulcers and had no energy to even get up out of bed. None of the doctors knew what he had and it took a year or so before a specialist could diagnose the problem and the correct treatment could be brought in from a tropical country.
 
Hehe, when Dragonslair sees this, he can relate a good story to you.

In my marine tank, I use gloves when fragging corals. The Zoos have a deadly poison.

GL
 
CFC said:
I once heard from a old workmate that his father caught a strange tropical disease from his fish tank from starting a syphon by mouth (which i still do all the same :crazy: ). Apperently he started to get huge body ulcers and had no energy to even get up out of bed. None of the doctors knew what he had and it took a year or so before a specialist could diagnose the problem and the correct treatment could be brought in from a tropical country.
Yikes!!

Glad I don't have to start my syphon with my mouth!
 
Heres an article I found on transference of diseases from fish to humans :eek:

Looks like your fish could be terrorists ready to unleash biological weapons at any moment! Be warned!


Diseases Transmitted to Humans

Notes from a talk given to the Saltwater Enthusiasts Association of the Bay Area (SEABay) by
Adrian Lawler, Ph.D.
(retired) Aquarium Supervisor (l984-l998) J. L. Scott Aquarium Biloxi, Ms 39530
Aquarticles

….Finally, in this short presentation, I would like to briefly discuss fish tank diseases that can be transmitted to humans. Some can be difficult to cure….some can be quickly FATAL.

Fish TB (MYCOBACTERIUM MARINUM), also called fish tuberculosis, fish tank granuloma, swimming pool granuloma. Related to human TB and leprosy.
- Bacteria are very resistant to treatment. Usually occurs on extremities (hands, feet). Entrance through wounds. Incubation ranges from 2 days to 2 years; usually takes about 2 weeks for granuloma to appear at site of infection. Infected area may be pink to purple in color, may discharge pus, and may be painful to touch.
- Treated with human TB drugs (local doctors have used minocycline, rifampin, ethambutol, and biaxin); can take a long time to cure (year or more).
- People have gotten fish TB from fish spine punctures, cleaning fish/shrimp/crabs, getting scratched on fish tanks, from rose bushes and injuring bare feet in parking lots (infected water transferred via air during storms), mouth-siphoning fish tanks, dolphin bites, diving around reefs, splinters from fish net handles, etc. - Usually not fatal. Can get into joints and mimic arthritis or carpal tunnel syndrome.
- Most frequent type of aquatic infection seen in my area.

VIBRIO infections.
- Several species can infect humans: V. ALGINOLYTICUS (wound infections), V.DAMSELA (wound/systemic infections), V. PARAHAEMOLYTICUS (gastroenteritis/wound infections),V.VULNIFICUS (wound/gastroenteritis/systemic infections).
- Systemic infections with vulnificus or damsela can be rapidly FATAL, or lead to limb amputation.. Systemic infections gotten through wounds.
- Incubation of vulnificus is 1-5 days; median time is 28 hours. Symptoms include high fever, chills, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, low blood pressure, seizures, fluid-filled skin lesions, etc.
- Gastrointestinal infections via ingestion of vulnificus (eating raw oysters, etc) and other species of Vibrio can cause rapid dehydration, and can lead to systemic infections if bacteria enter blood. Vulnificus can multiply so rapidly that blood vessels and organs get clogged…sometimes leading to amputation or death. - Antibiotics utilized have been tetracycline, ampicillin, penicillin, gentamycin, etc. (Also see Dr. Bingman's paper of 4/6/97 at REEFS LIBRARY).

ERYSIPELOTHRIX RHUSIOPATHIAE, also known as erythema migrans, fish-handler's disease, fish poisoning, fish hand, sealer's finger, whale finger, blubber finger, etc.
- Disease primarily occupational …..people handling animals or their wastes can get it, e.g.: butchers, meat-processing workers, animal caretakers, farmers, fishermen, veterinarians, cooks/housewives, sewer workers, etc. Can persist in frozen meats.
- Incubation 1-7 days. Fever, malaise, pain in muscles & joints, severe headaches. Infections can go internal to C. nervous system/heart. Most commonly seen on hands-can lead to acute arthritis of finger joints.
- Bacterial infection through break in skin. Carried by many animals, including dolphins, shellfish, and fish. - Also known as "diamond skin disease," where diamond-shaped welts occur on the skin due to infection.
- Effects usually benign, but can be fatal. Systemic treatment is with antibiotics.

SALMONELLA….over 1600 serotypes identified.
- Infection by ingestion. Carried by many types of animals.
- Mild to severe gastroenteritis. Can by fatal thru rapid dehydration, septicemia, fecal infections.
- Incubation is 7-72 hours.

MAD FISH DISEASE…..caused by STREPTOCOCCUS INIAE.
- Recently reported from handling tilapia. Infection via puncture wounds.
- Can cause fever, shaking, meningitis, arthritis, and skin/blood infections.
- To protect yourself - do not handle organisms/water/tanks if you have skin breaks; do not dive if you have skin breaks; do not mouth-siphon tank water, do not ingest raw seafood, etc. Wash hands, etc. well after working on tanks, with seafood, and after diving. If punctured, or injured under water, allow the wound to bleed freely for a while to expel injected bacteria, then sterilize and protect wound.

Those people with weakened immune systems are at greater risk for getting the above infections. So people with AIDS, diabetes, liver dysfunction, kidney problems, or undergoing cancer treatment, etc. should be especially careful. (SEE: Hubbert et al. Diseases Transmitted from Animals to Man. Charles C. Thomas, Publisher. ISBN 0-398-03056-1)

Toxins produced by RED TIDE organisms and PFIESTERIA PISCICIDA can affect humans in various ways.
- PFIESTERIA exposure can lead to skin sores, memory loss, narcosis ("drugged" effect), reddening of eyes, severe headaches, blurred vision, nausea/vomiting, difficulty in breathing, kidney/liver dysfunction, severe cognitive impairment (can't remember name, address, etc), etc.
- Relapses have happened 6 years after initial exposure.
- PFIESTERIA is now classed as a BIOHAZARD III, and can be researched only in specially-equipped labs.
 
i dont use anything i do however wash my hands but i will stop syphoning with my mouth now.
dixon
 
I wear gloves (when I remember) and wash before after as my hads suffer contact dermititus which in simple speak is an alegy to errm stuff :)

Many a time I've got a mouthful of pooy fish water when sythoning.... but never again!
 
iv got a free supply of gloves from work, we wear them because of cross infections/ infections to protect ourselfs... iv recently done a massive course on infections control and cross infection





















and i still DONT wear gloves near my tank.... i do at work tho :X
 
protection for my tank but for me no i just wash my hand and don't touch the venomus fish :fun: :-(
 
:lol: I just boil my hands before and after. :p

Come on laugh, it's April Fools Day!! And I have been accused of being a fool before.
 
No i don't, i use precautions
Good hand scrubing with water doos the trick.
 
MadCow said:
:lol: I just boil my hands before and after. :p

Come on laugh, it's April Fools Day!! And I have been accused of being a fool before.
ha the fools on u its past 12:00 when u wote that

no i dont use gloves or anything like dat just wash my hands with water and when i looked at the tittle of this post i thought (sorry if i seem to be a bit of a pervbut) u were talking about sex.
 
OMG

Thanks a WHOLE lot CFC!! :lol:

Now I'm freaked. Sometimes I just wipe my hand off on my shirt or pants when I'm done in the tank...... :X I better start washing with soap EVERY time I'm done in my tanks.

And siphoning by mouth.....D@MN IT!!! Now, how the heck am I going to get the siphon started!!! SERIOUSLY................. :sad:



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