Cycling ( Yet Again)

markandhisfish

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hi the next tank i get is going to be my 2nd, when i got my 1st i didnt even know about cycling. now that i do know you have to cycle a tank i just wondered what kind of timeframe we are talking about here. will be 4 ft tank running tetratec ex 1200 . what would be the quickest i could reasonably expect it to cycle??
 
If you can transfer some of your filter media over to the new tank the cycle should complete in a couple of weeks.
 
done properly it will usually take between 4-6 weeks for the cycle then a couple of weeks after just for monitoring porpuses :)


jen
 
Usually from scratch its about 4 - 6 weeks. Even a squeeze from your existing filter media directly onto the new media would help a little :good:
 
I'm currently using exactly the same as you.

Every cycle is different and in my 4ft using the 1200 I'm now 4.5 weeks into my cycle and only JUST converting 3ppm of ammonia back to 0 in about 72 hours!

Dont use the carbon - You'll only need to remove it and that will disturb the bacteria, replace it with some more sponge/rings or even gravel. Also try slowing the flow down a teeny tiny bit so that the filter isnt flowing too fast whilst the bacteria is growing.

Having a really tough time with mine, I've tried other things but it is hopeless so sometimes you just have to be patient.

I would certainly try to find some mature media, from a friend, fish shop, here.

Good luck anyway :good:
 
I'll throw in my agreement with the others above. The average we quote a lot is 4 to 6 weeks, even though the truth is that the amount of time it takes a given individual to fishless cycle a filter varies in the extreme.

On the short side there are those who manage to get a contribution of mature filter media material from a mature tank of someone elses and have it work and they only take a week or two. Then there are those that get a mature media contribution but it somehow fails and it still takes them weeks. Then there are the people that are right on the average and see their nitrites finally begin to drop seriously right after the 21 days that is right there in the discussions of average times.

On the other side of this bell curve are people that find they have a problem somewhere along the line. Perhaps they had something wrong with their ammonia and had to start over. Most common of all are those who have problems from very soft water or pH crashes or low pH in general and things stretch out to a couple of months. Enough of all that happening and it can stretch out to 3 months for some, but this is getting on the extreme side.

One nice thing that helps one to be patient is that the process is inevitably going to get there if you just keep testing, putting ammonia in and paying attention. Mostly it just works, if you are patient enough. Its very, very rare that we hear of anyone finding a fatal problem that causes them to start all over.

locust brings up a good point. Be sure to give yourself the best possible start with the right types of filter materials - you don't need carbon and certainly not zeolite or any other chemicals that might mess up the whole process. Coarse sponges, fine sponges, ceramic rings and ceramic pebbles are the most common biofilter media materials currently used.

~~waterdrop~~
 
ok thanks for all your replies at the molment i run a stone age ugf so can transfer any media . maybe when i get my new tank and filter i will ask on here if anybody is willing to sell me some mature media to speed things up. also what are bactinettes please?
 
just looked at bactinettes think i will just go fishless and grin and bear it . at least it will give the plants time to grow a bit lol
 
Well the method you use is your choice and what you feel comfortable with, however have a read of my experience with Bactinettes so far.

It appears to me that people on this forum are more geared towards fishless cycling, again thats personal choice, but thats not to say that Bactinettes does not work, because i have proved it has.

My Bactinette experience
 

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