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Hi all today is pay day for me and like every month can’t help but buy something fish related also September being my birthday month I have decided to treat myself and buy a fluval fx6 which is a huge up grade from my 406 my question is is it safe to just put a new filter straight into my tank ? I know a lot of bb lives in the filter and just swaping the filters seems dangerous to me , any advice this is the first time I have upgraded my filter And not sure how to go about it could I just pack the old filter material into the new and prey
 
I would do as suggested try to get as much old filter media into you’re new one . If I was in this position I would dose the whole tank volume with prime for a week to cover your fish and to give your new filter a chance to catch up again to your stocking levels. I would dose prime once every 24 hours for a week incase you get any ammonia and nitrite spikes. Other people may disagree with me but if it was my tank Thant’s what I would do .
 
Yes just put the established media from your old filter into the new filter.
Thanks for the advice just really nervous for some reason about the change to be honest
 
Many people here have done it. Helps speed up cycling the new tank. Having lots of plants also helps with cycling as they absorb ammonia.

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I would do as suggested try to get as much old filter media into you’re new one . If I was in this position I would dose the whole tank volume with prime for a week to cover your fish and to give your new filter a chance to catch up again to your stocking levels. I would dose prime once every 24 hours for a week incase you get any ammonia and nitrite spikes. Other people may disagree with me but if it was my tank Thant’s what I would do .

I can see why you thinking along these lines, the logic is there.

However, dosing Seachem Prime every 24 hours will amount to basically overdosing the water column.

What happens when you add prime is this binds ammonia, ammonium, nitrite etc but also prime will deplete the water column of oxygen, usually just temporarily. But in overdosing prime, in extreme cases, this might effect your water parameters and possibly even harm your livestock.

And also what you have to remember as well is that livestock will ingest whatever you add to the water column so this may have detrimental effects on their bodies, therefore we kind of always say the less of you adding any chemicals to the tank, the better.

Caution is always advised whenever one adds chemicals or dechlorinters, read the label and research or ask first before doing these things.

Edit - swapping over the old filter media to the new filter is fine, just put in everything from old filter, sponge, biomedia and ceramics etc to new filter.

Plus don't forget there will already be loads of bb in the substrate, tank glass, plants and decor etc, so the effects of a new filter with established media will be minimal, possible minicycle but this is usually sorted by the bb colonising the new filter casing and the numbers will rise to the desired equilibrium to maintain water parameters fairly quickly, normally two or three days.

So do keep an eye on your ammonia and nitrite readings over the next few days and anytime you see 0.5ppm or over, just simply do a large water change with dechlorinated water.
 
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I can see why you thinking along these lines, the logic is there.

However, dosing Seachem Prime every 24 hours will amount to basically overdosing the water column.

What happens when you add prime is this binds ammonia, ammonium, nitrite etc but also prime will deplete the water column of oxygen, usually just temporarily. But in overdosing prime, in extreme cases, this might effect your water parameters and possibly even harm your livestock.

And also what you have to remember as well is that livestock will ingest whatever you add to the water column so this may have detrimental effects on their bodies, therefore we kind of always say the less of you adding any chemicals to the tank, the better.

Caution is always advised whenever one adds chemicals or dechlorinters, read the label and research or ask first before doing these things.

Edit - swapping over the old filter media to the new filter is fine, just put in everything from old filter, sponge, biomedia and ceramics etc to new filter.

Plus don't forget there will already be loads of bb in the substrate, tank glass, plants and decor etc, so the effects of a new filter with established media will be minimal, possible minicycle but this is usually sorted by the bb colonising the new filter casing and the numbers will rise to the desired equilibrium to maintain water parameters fairly quickly, normally two or three days.

So do keep an eye on your ammonia and nitrite readings over the next few days and anytime you see 0.5ppm or over, just simply do a large water change with dechlorinated water.
Most of my plants are plastic other than a few moss balls I do intend to swap the plastic for live plants in the near future I was going to do this sooner than later but I think I will leave them for a week or so for now , the only reason I would like a fx6 is simply I’m hoping less water changes , hoping to drop to a10-15% instead of 20-30 % a week as my 406 struggles in my 70g slows down every 2 weeks or so and end up with spiking ammonia, will an over sized filter help with this
 
Hi all today is pay day for me and like every month can’t help but buy something fish related also September being my birthday month I have decided to treat myself and buy a fluval fx6 which is a huge up grade from my 406 my question is is it safe to just put a new filter straight into my tank ? I know a lot of bb lives in the filter and just swaping the filters seems dangerous to me , any advice this is the first time I have upgraded my filter And not sure how to go about it could I just pack the old filter material into the new and prey
I changed to a new tank last week ,with a new large filter . I just stuffed the foam media from the old smaller filter into the new one along with the new foam .It slowed the flow of water down a bit but fish and parameters all good so far . :)
 
Most of my plants are plastic other than a few moss balls I do intend to swap the plastic for live plants in the near future I was going to do this sooner than later but I think I will leave them for a week or so for now , the only reason I would like a fx6 is simply I’m hoping less water changes , hoping to drop to a10-15% instead of 20-30 % a week as my 406 struggles in my 70g slows down every 2 weeks or so and end up with spiking ammonia, will an over sized filter help with this

Hmm, upsizing / upgrading the filter is no bad thing, depends on what livestock you have.

Some fish might not appreciate higher flow as they may require slower moving current than others. Just depends what livestock you have or planning to have.

However, we always recommend doing at least 50% water changes weekly anyway, so dropping weekly water changes to 10-15% is not really recommended, this can lead to poorer water quaility overall.

Remember livestock lives and breathes in your tank water 24/7 so by the end of the week the nitrate may have risen and the water quaility has an effect on livestocks bodies and also the natural minerals in water will have depleted as well.

This is the main reason why we do water changes, improves water quality, adds minerals and helps reduces the nitrate levels as well as clearing up all the fish poop and debris from substrate and plants surfaces as well, as these all these will undoubtly have an effect on water parameters as well.

As for the 406 filter filling up with gunk and reducing flow, this could be down to the fact you may only currently do 20-30% water changes as the gunk from substrate and water column from the tank fills the filter media with gunk faster.

I appreciate that a 70g/265l tank has a lot of water to change weekly as is a fair amount of work to do, especially if you only use buckets or containers to do the water changes. If you don't already use one, a python hose water system will definitely make life easier for those large water changes.
 
It's not just nitrate that builds up, everything excreted by the fish also builds up as do the chemicals which fish use to communicate with each other.

Filters should be cleaned at least once a month, preferably every 2 weeks. All the goo that builds up in there and slows the flow rate (fish poop, uneaten food etc) decomposes to ammonia which is turned into nitrate by the filter bacteria.
 
It's not just nitrate that builds up, everything excreted by the fish also builds up as do the chemicals which fish use to communicate with each other.

Filters should be cleaned at least once a month, preferably every 2 weeks. All the goo that builds up in there and slows the flow rate (fish poop, uneaten food etc) decomposes to ammonia which is turned into nitrate by the filter bacteria.
I do a staggering filter change so I will change one of the 3trys every2 weeks to avoid loosing bb
 
Hmm, upsizing / upgrading the filter is no bad thing, depends on what livestock you have.

Some fish might not appreciate higher flow as they may require slower moving current than others. Just depends what livestock you have or planning to have.

However, we always recommend doing at least 50% water changes weekly anyway, so dropping weekly water changes to 10-15% is not really recommended, this can lead to poorer water quaility overall.

Remember livestock lives and breathes in your tank water 24/7 so by the end of the week the nitrate may have risen and the water quaility has an effect on livestocks bodies and also the natural minerals in water will have depleted as well.

This is the main reason why we do water changes, improves water quality, adds minerals and helps reduces the nitrate levels as well as clearing up all the fish poop and debris from substrate and plants surfaces as well, as these all these will undoubtly have an effect on water parameters as well.

As for the 406 filter filling up with gunk and reducing flow, this could be down to the fact you may only currently do 20-30% water changes as the gunk from substrate and water column from the tank fills the filter media with gunk faster.

I appreciate that a 70g/265l tank has a lot of water to change weekly as is a fair amount of work to do, especially if you only use buckets or containers to do the water changes. If you don't already use one, a python hose water system will definitely make life easier for those large water changes.
I stock 4 electric blue acara 2 convicts and a leopard pleco all juveniles and I use my gravel vac for my water changes because my pleco has a very active bowl lol
 
Hmm, upsizing / upgrading the filter is no bad thing, depends on what livestock you have.

Some fish might not appreciate higher flow as they may require slower moving current than others. Just depends what livestock you have or planning to have.

However, we always recommend doing at least 50% water changes weekly anyway, so dropping weekly water changes to 10-15% is not really recommended, this can lead to poorer water quaility overall.

Remember livestock lives and breathes in your tank water 24/7 so by the end of the week the nitrate may have risen and the water quaility has an effect on livestocks bodies and also the natural minerals in water will have depleted as well.

This is the main reason why we do water changes, improves water quality, adds minerals and helps reduces the nitrate levels as well as clearing up all the fish poop and debris from substrate and plants surfaces as well, as these all these will undoubtly have an effect on water parameters as well.

As for the 406 filter filling up with gunk and reducing flow, this could be down to the fact you may only currently do 20-30% water changes as the gunk from substrate and water column from the tank fills the filter media with gunk faster.

I appreciate that a 70g/265l tank has a lot of water to change weekly as is a fair amount of work to do, especially if you only use buckets or containers to do the water changes. If you don't already use one, a python hose water system will definitely make life easier for those large water changes.
Do you know anything about the “home made” versions of the python being sold on eBay in the U.K.? I’m tempted as they’re about 25% of the python brands being sold.
Are pythons effective over 15metres? Thats what I’d need and I’m a bit dubious as to their effectiveness. If they’re good then I’ll get one ASAP as the bucket and jug methods losing its appeal rapidly.
 
I use a cheap aquarium pump attached to a hosepipe to drain the tank. Runs across about 30 metres.
 
Do you know anything about the “home made” versions of the python being sold on eBay in the U.K.? I’m tempted as they’re about 25% of the python brands being sold.
Are pythons effective over 15metres? Thats what I’d need and I’m a bit dubious as to their effectiveness. If they’re good then I’ll get one ASAP as the bucket and jug methods losing its appeal rapidly.

Thats what I used, a home made diy python hose set up.

The ones you buy are a bit on the pricey side, cheaper doing your own diy version.

Theres lots of types of connections and modifications that you can try. Simply choose the one you like best or the easiest one that you think you can make to suit your tank set up and for which tap to use etc

Think I had the hose length at around 10 - 15 meters long and used a universal pump to help pump the water out of aquarium out to the bathroom as otherwise flow on its own was a bit slow.

A real back saver as previously did use buckets for water changes on two tanks, actually had 4 tanks up and running at one point and bucket water changes were a real drag.
 

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