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I was just on Ebay looking for aquatic plants and found a seller who is advertising aquarium plant seeds. It seems a bit suspicious to me because most true aquatic plants don't flower, and subsequently don't produce seed. Marsh plants do flower and produce seed but they normally produce small numbers of seed.

Anyway, I copied the growing instructions below if anyone wants to read them. It's kind of interesting that they suggest soaking the seeds before planting them. Just curious, but why would you soak aquarium plants seeds if they are going to be growing in an aquarium with water?

I reckon it's a possible shonky dealer but who knows, it might be legit. But I'm not buying grass seed to grow in an aquarium.

The information below is copied from the Ebay advert.



Types of seeds/spores :
Aquatic Grass Bonsai Colourful Underwater Moss Aquarium Plant Indoor Fish Tank Landscape (Mixed)

These seeds can be used either as carpeted plants or for landscaping.

All packets has 1000 seeds quaranteed. Easy to plant and manage. Provide hiding places for fry, shrimps or other fishes and allow them to feel secure. They are all aquatic plants and definitely can be planted in an aquarium. It helps with the cycling of the tank and lowering of toxins as well.


How to Grow the seeds(instruction provided by manufacturer and after reading some online articles) :
1. Soak the Seeds in water for 12-24 hours.


How to Soak Seed Before Planting
Seed soaking, at a basic level needs two things: seeds and water. Some methods for seed soaking may substitute the water for slightly acidic solutions, such as weak tea or coffee or even acidic chemicals. These acidic solutions are meant to imitate loosely the stomach acid of an animal. But these solutions are not necessary in most cases. For most seeds, water will work just fine. Take a small bowl and fill it with water from your tap, as hot as your tap will allow. Some seeds can tolerate boiling water, but as the tolerance for heat can vary greatly from species to species, hot tap water is safest for seed soaking. Once your bowl is filled with hot water, place your seeds inside the bowl, then allow the seeds to stay in the water as it cools down. Common questions at this point include “How long should seeds be soaked?” and “Can you over soak seeds?” Yes, you can over soak seeds. Too much soaking in water and a seed will drown. It is recommended that you only soak most seeds for 12 to 24 hours and no more than 48 hours. The seeds of some species of plants can survive longer soakings, but you should only do this if the specific instructions for this species recommend so. There are things you can do to improve how well your seeds react to soaking. Large seeds or seeds with particularly hard coats can benefit from scarification before soaking. Scarification means to damage the seed coat in some way so that the water is better able to penetrate the seed. Scarification can be done through several methods. These include rubbing the seed on fine grain sand paper, nicking the seed coat with a knife and even gently tapping the seed with a hammer to help crack the seed coat. After soaking your seeds, they can be planted as directed. The benefit of soaking seeds before planting is that your germination time will be reduced, which means you can have happy, growing plants faster.

2. Place the seeds on the bed of soil with depth of at least 1cm into the soil. Preferably to have the seeds planted on or into the gravel before adding live fishes or invertebrates into the tanks. Do not allow the water to be above the soil.

3. Avoid lights and place the spore in a shady area. Temperature should be around 20 degrees.A pot should have between 20-25 seeds each.

4. Seeds are easy to use and should grow within 2 weeks if all parameters are met and the environment are set ideally for the growth of plants. It could take up to 6 weeks to grow them as they are slow growers. Make sure a lot of moistures are provided. 




How to grow Moss
Moss is used by freshwater aquarists for many different reasons.

It can be used to soften harsh features in the aquarium. For example, cover the wall or floor, or even cover the filter to make it look attractive. Moss provides your tank with a more natural feel – if you ever walk through a damp forest you’re highly likely to find moss growing on most surfaces, especially if there is a stream or river nearby.

Possibly the most popular use of moss is Aquascaping. Aquascaping is the craft of arranging aquatic plants, driftwood, stones and rocks in beautiful way. Much like gardening, but underwater.

Another popular place you’ll see moss is in breeder tanks. Moss creates the ideal place for eggs to attach to, and for fry to hide in from larger fish.

Not only does it provide fry with shelter, but moss also creates an ideal place to harbor infusorians, which is the perfect first food for fry. It also provides a great hiding place for shrimp and so is very common amongst shrimp tanks.

Care Level: Very Easy
Water Conditions: 5.0 – 8.0 and Soft to Hard 
Temperature: 18-30 °C (70-75 °F)

Moss is one of the easiest to grow of all the commonly available aquatic plants. It’s hardy nature and striking green coloration makes it a favourite among aquarists, and it can be found in aquariums throughout the globe.

Moss is especially sought out for breeder tanks, as it provides numerous benefits to the tank. The densely growing moss provides a perfect refuge for any newborn fish and it also has the added benefit of providing food to the tiny fry. Numerous types of microscopic infusoria live on the long tendrils of moss, and provide a veritable feast for the hard to feed baby fish.

Care
Growing Moss is incredibly easy and unlike many of the more finicky plants, it doesn’t need any special lighting or added nutrients. It will even thrive in aquariums with very low lighting, and may actually start to suffer if placed in aquariums with overly bright lighting. When placed in a brightly lit aquarium, it usually becomes blanketed in algae, and may eventually die if it becomes totally covered.

Adding to the ease of caring for Moss is the fact that it doesn’t need to be planted. To prevent the moss from constantly moving around the aquarium, most people with attach it to rocks or driftwood. It also looks visually stunning when formed into a moss wall, which can be accomplished by pressing the moss between two pieces of mess and attaching to the back of the aquarium.

Attaching the moss to rocks or driftwood is easy, and can be accomplished by either tying it down with fish line or a dark-colored thread. Some people also have success using flexible meshes, but you need to ensure that any mesh used is completely non-toxic. After at least one month of growth, the moss will anchor itself and the fish line or thread can be removed at that time.

Propagation
The propagation of moss is as simple as breaking off a piece of the moss. It propagates through division, so any piece that is broken off will continue to grow and will form another large and dense bunch of moss.

Depending on the purpose of your java moss, there are different ways to incorporate it into your aquarium.

The simplest way is to leave it as a floating plant. If you choose this option, you can literally just pop the plant into your aquarium and leave it.

Most people prefer the plant to attach to something so it stays in one place. The propagation of moss is really simple. When a piece is cut off from another, it will continue to grow and form more moss.

To attach the moss, you should lay it in a thin layer over the rock or driftwood that you want to attach it to, and secure it with fishing line or dark thread.

Once the moss has naturally attached itself, after a month or so, the thread can be removed.

Moss Carpet/Walls

Another popular way to grow moss is as a carpet or wall. This provides your tank with an aesthetically pleasing floor or wall and is easy to maintain.

To create a carpet, you will need two pieces of mesh and some fishing line or thread. It’s important to make sure that all the materials you put into your tank are non-toxic.

Lay down your first piece of mesh, and lightly cover it with moss. You can cut bits off to arrange them so they sit flat, don’t worry about keeping it whole. Once you have a good coverage, place the second piece of mesh on top, and use thread to secure the two pieces together.

The sandwiched Moss can then be placed into the tank and will slowly start to grow through the mesh, providing you with a visually stunning bed of moss which you can use to cover the floor or the wall.

Alternatively, you can weigh the moss down, for example if you want moss on the floor, sprinkle a light layer of gravel over it.


Moss Trees
Moss can also be used to create trees, using a piece of driftwood that stands vertically. Ideally you’ll choose a piece of wood that gives a tree like appearance with a few branches extending outwards. Alternatively, you can tie a number of pieces of wood together to form a tree shape. Remember any glue you use should suitable for aquarium use.

Collect your moss, if you’ve taken it directly from your tank, you’ll need to gently pat it off taking care not to dry the moss out.

Using small amounts of glue, attach the moss to your branches in small amounts. Once you’ve attached all your moss, trim off any extra, wispy bits to create the tree shaped look.

Then place the moss tree into your tank.

Compatibility

Moss is something of a rarity, as it is compatible with nearly any species of fish.


*Information copied from multiple websites*

Seeds are mixed and sent at random. They are mixture of bonsai or moss plants. Moss are either Anchor Moss, Weeping Moss, Java Moss, Flame Moss, Peacock Moss or Taiwan Moss.

Thank you.

Usually will ship out within 1-3 business days after receiving payment.
 
I was just on Ebay looking for aquatic plants and found a seller who is advertising aquarium plant seeds. It seems a bit suspicious to me because most true aquatic plants don't flower, and subsequently don't produce seed. Marsh plants do flower and produce seed but they normally produce small numbers of seed.

Anyway, I copied the growing instructions below if anyone wants to read them. It's kind of interesting that they suggest soaking the seeds before planting them. Just curious, but why would you soak aquarium plants seeds if they are going to be growing in an aquarium with water?

I reckon it's a possible shonky dealer but who knows, it might be legit. But I'm not buying grass seed to grow in an aquarium.

The information below is copied from the Ebay advert.



Types of seeds/spores :
Aquatic Grass Bonsai Colourful Underwater Moss Aquarium Plant Indoor Fish Tank Landscape (Mixed)

These seeds can be used either as carpeted plants or for landscaping.

All packets has 1000 seeds quaranteed. Easy to plant and manage. Provide hiding places for fry, shrimps or other fishes and allow them to feel secure. They are all aquatic plants and definitely can be planted in an aquarium. It helps with the cycling of the tank and lowering of toxins as well.


How to Grow the seeds(instruction provided by manufacturer and after reading some online articles) :
1. Soak the Seeds in water for 12-24 hours.


How to Soak Seed Before Planting
Seed soaking, at a basic level needs two things: seeds and water. Some methods for seed soaking may substitute the water for slightly acidic solutions, such as weak tea or coffee or even acidic chemicals. These acidic solutions are meant to imitate loosely the stomach acid of an animal. But these solutions are not necessary in most cases. For most seeds, water will work just fine. Take a small bowl and fill it with water from your tap, as hot as your tap will allow. Some seeds can tolerate boiling water, but as the tolerance for heat can vary greatly from species to species, hot tap water is safest for seed soaking. Once your bowl is filled with hot water, place your seeds inside the bowl, then allow the seeds to stay in the water as it cools down. Common questions at this point include “How long should seeds be soaked?” and “Can you over soak seeds?” Yes, you can over soak seeds. Too much soaking in water and a seed will drown. It is recommended that you only soak most seeds for 12 to 24 hours and no more than 48 hours. The seeds of some species of plants can survive longer soakings, but you should only do this if the specific instructions for this species recommend so. There are things you can do to improve how well your seeds react to soaking. Large seeds or seeds with particularly hard coats can benefit from scarification before soaking. Scarification means to damage the seed coat in some way so that the water is better able to penetrate the seed. Scarification can be done through several methods. These include rubbing the seed on fine grain sand paper, nicking the seed coat with a knife and even gently tapping the seed with a hammer to help crack the seed coat. After soaking your seeds, they can be planted as directed. The benefit of soaking seeds before planting is that your germination time will be reduced, which means you can have happy, growing plants faster.

2. Place the seeds on the bed of soil with depth of at least 1cm into the soil. Preferably to have the seeds planted on or into the gravel before adding live fishes or invertebrates into the tanks. Do not allow the water to be above the soil.

3. Avoid lights and place the spore in a shady area. Temperature should be around 20 degrees.A pot should have between 20-25 seeds each.

4. Seeds are easy to use and should grow within 2 weeks if all parameters are met and the environment are set ideally for the growth of plants. It could take up to 6 weeks to grow them as they are slow growers. Make sure a lot of moistures are provided. 




How to grow Moss
Moss is used by freshwater aquarists for many different reasons.

It can be used to soften harsh features in the aquarium. For example, cover the wall or floor, or even cover the filter to make it look attractive. Moss provides your tank with a more natural feel – if you ever walk through a damp forest you’re highly likely to find moss growing on most surfaces, especially if there is a stream or river nearby.

Possibly the most popular use of moss is Aquascaping. Aquascaping is the craft of arranging aquatic plants, driftwood, stones and rocks in beautiful way. Much like gardening, but underwater.

Another popular place you’ll see moss is in breeder tanks. Moss creates the ideal place for eggs to attach to, and for fry to hide in from larger fish.

Not only does it provide fry with shelter, but moss also creates an ideal place to harbor infusorians, which is the perfect first food for fry. It also provides a great hiding place for shrimp and so is very common amongst shrimp tanks.

Care Level: Very Easy
Water Conditions: 5.0 – 8.0 and Soft to Hard 
Temperature: 18-30 °C (70-75 °F)

Moss is one of the easiest to grow of all the commonly available aquatic plants. It’s hardy nature and striking green coloration makes it a favourite among aquarists, and it can be found in aquariums throughout the globe.

Moss is especially sought out for breeder tanks, as it provides numerous benefits to the tank. The densely growing moss provides a perfect refuge for any newborn fish and it also has the added benefit of providing food to the tiny fry. Numerous types of microscopic infusoria live on the long tendrils of moss, and provide a veritable feast for the hard to feed baby fish.

Care
Growing Moss is incredibly easy and unlike many of the more finicky plants, it doesn’t need any special lighting or added nutrients. It will even thrive in aquariums with very low lighting, and may actually start to suffer if placed in aquariums with overly bright lighting. When placed in a brightly lit aquarium, it usually becomes blanketed in algae, and may eventually die if it becomes totally covered.

Adding to the ease of caring for Moss is the fact that it doesn’t need to be planted. To prevent the moss from constantly moving around the aquarium, most people with attach it to rocks or driftwood. It also looks visually stunning when formed into a moss wall, which can be accomplished by pressing the moss between two pieces of mess and attaching to the back of the aquarium.

Attaching the moss to rocks or driftwood is easy, and can be accomplished by either tying it down with fish line or a dark-colored thread. Some people also have success using flexible meshes, but you need to ensure that any mesh used is completely non-toxic. After at least one month of growth, the moss will anchor itself and the fish line or thread can be removed at that time.

Propagation
The propagation of moss is as simple as breaking off a piece of the moss. It propagates through division, so any piece that is broken off will continue to grow and will form another large and dense bunch of moss.

Depending on the purpose of your java moss, there are different ways to incorporate it into your aquarium.

The simplest way is to leave it as a floating plant. If you choose this option, you can literally just pop the plant into your aquarium and leave it.

Most people prefer the plant to attach to something so it stays in one place. The propagation of moss is really simple. When a piece is cut off from another, it will continue to grow and form more moss.

To attach the moss, you should lay it in a thin layer over the rock or driftwood that you want to attach it to, and secure it with fishing line or dark thread.

Once the moss has naturally attached itself, after a month or so, the thread can be removed.

Moss Carpet/Walls

Another popular way to grow moss is as a carpet or wall. This provides your tank with an aesthetically pleasing floor or wall and is easy to maintain.

To create a carpet, you will need two pieces of mesh and some fishing line or thread. It’s important to make sure that all the materials you put into your tank are non-toxic.

Lay down your first piece of mesh, and lightly cover it with moss. You can cut bits off to arrange them so they sit flat, don’t worry about keeping it whole. Once you have a good coverage, place the second piece of mesh on top, and use thread to secure the two pieces together.

The sandwiched Moss can then be placed into the tank and will slowly start to grow through the mesh, providing you with a visually stunning bed of moss which you can use to cover the floor or the wall.

Alternatively, you can weigh the moss down, for example if you want moss on the floor, sprinkle a light layer of gravel over it.


Moss Trees
Moss can also be used to create trees, using a piece of driftwood that stands vertically. Ideally you’ll choose a piece of wood that gives a tree like appearance with a few branches extending outwards. Alternatively, you can tie a number of pieces of wood together to form a tree shape. Remember any glue you use should suitable for aquarium use.

Collect your moss, if you’ve taken it directly from your tank, you’ll need to gently pat it off taking care not to dry the moss out.

Using small amounts of glue, attach the moss to your branches in small amounts. Once you’ve attached all your moss, trim off any extra, wispy bits to create the tree shaped look.

Then place the moss tree into your tank.

Compatibility

Moss is something of a rarity, as it is compatible with nearly any species of fish.


*Information copied from multiple websites*

Seeds are mixed and sent at random. They are mixture of bonsai or moss plants. Moss are either Anchor Moss, Weeping Moss, Java Moss, Flame Moss, Peacock Moss or Taiwan Moss.

Thank you.

Usually will ship out within 1-3 business days after receiving payment.
I’d be claiming my money back through the Ebay money back guarantee method if I was you. How unfair! The item wasn’t as described it seems as though you’re on grounds for a refund.
 
I didn't buy anything from them, I just thought it was interesting that "aquarium plant seeds" needed to be soaked in water before planting :)
 
I didn't buy anything from them, I just thought it was interesting that "aquarium plant seeds" needed to be soaked in water before planting :)
I must say I agree, I’ve never heard of this myself.

Hopefully your thread is a warning to all members to be extra cautious when buying online.
 

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