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Hi All

I've just got a 32x12x16 aquarium (about 100 litres / 26 gallons) and am thinking about setting it up as a catfish only aquarium - i appreciate that the size of the tank will probably restrict what i can stock it with, however I would love something similar looking to either Pictus or Hoplos - and again, something that is nice and active, and wont just sit stuck on the bottom / side of the glass like the BN plec that i used to have did!

Thanks in advance for your help

Nick
 
what kind of cat fish? red tail cat fish will grow way big...and some catfish families will grow out of 26 gallon before you know it..
 
Hi yes this is totally doable and would make a pretty interesting tank I reckon :)

If I were putting this tank together (and can imagine I might one day) :) I would look at doing groups of things like, Panda Cories (or simialr), Pygmy Cories (or similar), Synodontis Nigriventis (a trio could work as a nice centre piece but make sure they are the right species), Tatia perugiae (this would be a must have for me!!), Dewebi (spelling) Catfish (would be nice). Instead of Plecos (we have similar opinions of them ;) ) I like Whiptail Catfish, some, possibly most grow too big for this tank but the Red Lizard is quite small growing and would do well in this tank.

Like the post above me says, be careful as there are a lot of monster catfish out there but also in a tank this size limit your self with sizes and activity, putting a Hoplo or Pictus in a tank that small is not a possibility so it is best to stick to 2 maybe 3 inch maximums - though some catfish are quite inactive though so could maybe go upto 3.5/4 :)

See what you like off that list and any others that you like and we can work out some numbers :)

Wills
 
hi both and thanks for the response - although ive only been keeping fish for a year i know well enough to avoid rtc, id sharks, etc...a shame because they are great looking fish, but i doubt a central london flat would be able to cope with the aquarium size needed!

wills - youve given me plenty to think about there...and probably enough to keep me distracted at work today!! i'm a bit indifferent towards corys but the others are great suggestions, so will start having a browse and see what i can do.


what kind of aquascape would you use for this set up? is there any point in trying to have a couple of tiers of substrate?
finally, and what may be a really stupid question, but are there (m)any catfish that dont stick on to the bottom, and are more free swimming (like the id shark i guess, but much smaller)?

thanks again for the advice so far

nick
 
I would suggest a much larger tank for pictus cats. They're very active, especially at night.

As wills suggested, corys are great.
 
my hopolo pair are quite active, and great to watch. they come to the surface to get first dibs on food. ive got banjo cats aswell, great fish though i only see them at night, just get a glimpse of their noses poking out from under the sand during the day. also check out paynei catfish, they dont get very big and look nice in a group. or these, which ive saved in my favourites for a small tank later down the line - hara jerdoni.

ive thought about a cat only tank,a s they're my favourite type of fish, but i was never sure if the gallons of open unused water above the bottom would be a bit boring. other than cories and plecs, most cats ive seen only really do anything at night. my flash plec is the most active plec ive seen in person. always on show and moving about.
 
ive thought about a cat only tank,a s they're my favourite type of fish, but i was never sure if the gallons of open unused water above the bottom would be a bit boring.

thats still a concern...but cats are definitely my favorite...just seeing if there might be someway of incorporating various species, and having something a bit different...
i think wills has made a couple of great suggestions, and now im home from work, its time for some research to begin.

I would suggest a much larger tank for pictus cats. They're very active, especially at night.

As wills suggested, corys are great.

yeah - ive realised that pictus and hoplos would be too large for the tank...and as i want some variety in there i'm thinking smaller fish, perhaps more in number.
 
i would probably end up giving in and aswell as the cats, having a single plec and a school of something just for some movement. if you find some nice cherry barbs, and the tank is quite dark like mine, i think id have a group of glorious bright red cherry barbs and nothing else. the few cherry's i have look great, arent too big, not too flashy, safe from most cts, certainly ones to fit in your tank.
 
Hi yes this is totally doable and would make a pretty interesting tank I reckon :)

i hope so!!


I would look at doing groups of things like, Panda Cories (or simialr), Pygmy Cories (or similar),

sadly not a big fan of corys...

Synodontis Nigriventis (a trio could work as a nice centre piece but make sure they are the right species),

would petricola be a suitable alternative? i like my fish the right way up..!

Dewebi (spelling) Catfish (would be nice).

debauwi? these look great if thats what you mean...a large shoal, and mid water catfish by the looks of it? i think i saw them in the lfs labelled as dwarf pangasius, so walked past after reading the second part of the name...definitely shouldnt have!

I like Whiptail Catfish, some, possibly most grow too big for this tank but the Red Lizard is quite small growing and would do well in this tank.

they sell these locally Rineloricaria parva, and getting to 10cm wouldnt get too large?
 
So proposed stocking so far:

4 Synodontis Petricola - LFS advised that should be fine as they max out at 4"
8 Pareutropius Buffei / Debauwi - Only had the latter in stock, but preference would be Buffei as they are smaller, and nicer looking IMO.
And then...
1 Rock Dweller Group (Read below)
1 Butterfly Fish

Then I get a bit stuck...I think whiptails may get too big tbh.
When I started to think about how the tank would look, it feels like there would be something missing...I'm starting to sway towards maybe venturing outside of just catfish, but sticking with the African theme, so maybe some kind of rock dwellers? I like Julidochromis Transcriptus, or Pseudotropheus Saulosi (small known-sex group: 1M4F), but think the aggression around breeding time might be too much for the Debauwi? Other suggestions would be appreciated.

I thought on the right hand side of the tank some lava/ocean rock, then some bogwood and maybe plants on the right as well as a some of those fake plants that you sucker onto the top of the aquarium and hang down to cover the back.. I thought black sand/fine gravel would be a good idea too to bring out the colour of the synos - would they need sand?

I also thought that a Butterfly Fish would top it off really well too - and I know this is now more of a community than catfish only, but with a smaller tank, I think that adding much more onto the bottom would be a struggle!

Nick
 
I am not 100% certain on how the Debauwi would manage with the Shell Dwellers - but I imagine the Synos could work.....

If your looking away from just catfish dwarf rainbows or some kind of small barb would be great!!

I would stay away from the Butterfly fish though as they are a little large for that tank adults are quite a chunky animal.

Not 100% on the Petricola, I think Nigrventis might be a little smaller - have a look on Planet Catfish and see which are the smaller Synos and we can try to track them down :)

Wills
 
So proposed stocking so far:

4 Synodontis Petricola - LFS advised that should be fine as they max out at 4"
8 Pareutropius Buffei / Debauwi - Only had the latter in stock, but preference would be Buffei as they are smaller, and nicer looking IMO.
And then...
1 Rock Dweller Group (Read below)
1 Butterfly Fish

Then I get a bit stuck...I think whiptails may get too big tbh.
When I started to think about how the tank would look, it feels like there would be something missing...I'm starting to sway towards maybe venturing outside of just catfish, but sticking with the African theme, so maybe some kind of rock dwellers? I like Julidochromis Transcriptus, or Pseudotropheus Saulosi (small known-sex group: 1M4F), but think the aggression around breeding time might be too much for the Debauwi? Other suggestions would be appreciated.

I thought on the right hand side of the tank some lava/ocean rock, then some bogwood and maybe plants on the right as well as a some of those fake plants that you sucker onto the top of the aquarium and hang down to cover the back.. I thought black sand/fine gravel would be a good idea too to bring out the colour of the synos - would they need sand?

I also thought that a Butterfly Fish would top it off really well too - and I know this is now more of a community than catfish only, but with a smaller tank, I think that adding much more onto the bottom would be a struggle!

Nick

Meant to post my two pennies worth in this thread earlier in the week, as it involves some of my favourite fish...

African Butterfly Fish will get highly stressed in anything but a gentle current (as would any Rift Valley fish besides odd ones like the Goby Cichlids), while Pareutropius buffei and debauwi crave a good current, so I feel you really need to choose whether you are looking at a calm or riverine setup and then choose appropriate fish.

ABFs are semi-social, as in they like their own space, but then at times they happily swim side by side. Your tank could easily house two (30x30cm footprint per ABF is recommended), with floating plants (which they love to sit in) spread around the surface.

Pareutropius buffei/debauwi need good sized groups to settle, in the order of around 15+, which needs a sizeable tank to hold. It is very common for these fish to be mislabelled (P. debauwi is far rarer to find), so if you are not already aware of the body stripe and caudal fin shape/colouring, check out profiles such as those found at planetcatfish. As these fish tend to roam all levels of the tank and are quite fragile, I would be extremely wary of mixing them with rock/shell dwelling cichlids, who punch way above their weight when protecting their homes and fry.


If you choose to go down a calm water tank, Shadow Catfish and Glass Catfish (K. minor) spring to mind as midwater swimmers, but Shadows may be too tempting a size and shape to mix with ABF and Glass Catfish do tend to be sensitive to water chemistry/quality changes. Another possibility for the tank bottom would be South American or African Bumblebee Catfish, both are far more shy than their Asian cousins and if anything need carefully chosen peaceful tankmates

Your idea of Whiptails could definitely work in a riverine setup, as would Chaetostoma (Rubbernose).
 
thanks for the input...all advice received so far is much appreciated!! think i'll be paying another visit to the LFS this week and start trying to make some decisions...but with the choice on offer its not going to be easy...


N0body of the Goat - good call out on the riverine vs calm ... thats not something i had taken into account either. the tank came with a U2 which doesnt provide too much flow, but was definitely going to upgrade, most likely for an external, as want to be well over filtered. maybe have to have a rethink on what exactly to upgrade to now as well.

nick
 
I think petricola need at least a 50g tank if you want to keep them properly.
have you looked at Cetromochlus perugiae? they are brilliant little fish! similar shape to a jaguar catfish but a lot smaller and you can easily house a group of 4 in a tank your size!!
other alternatives i can suggest off the top of my head are hara hara (moth cats) and microsynodontis.
 
sadly this didnt take off. the tank is still unstocked whilst cycling, but think that catfish only wouldnt work in something so small and wouldnt be fair on the fish. am watching some larger tanks on ebay so hopefully this will be reinstated in the not too distant future. saw some asian sun catfish today and would love something like that - but that would need to be a seriously big tank, and whilst im still renting probably not the most sensible thing to invest in!
nick
 

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