cant believe it !!!

[pica_nuttalli]

where do you put a tank THAT big

in a spare bedroom!!

thats where i have my 210g and a 130g a side it, if i didn't have to think about getting the tank out again i would have a 470g tank there....10x2.5x2.5......and then 1 on the other side of the room aswell!!

water bed.

 

[Paul_MTS]

lol pica quite literally sleeping with the fishies.

to keep big marine fish i don't believe you would need things like live rock and live sand, you wuld filter it like a freshwater tank with the addition of a skimmer.

IN marine live rock is used to make reefs for fish that come from reefs and use them as there home, and seeing as the tank needs liverock you just use it as the filtration.

things like large sharks, puffer fish from marine would be housed like any big FW fish in a bare tank with heavy duty filtration!!

 

[wrs]

well the shark in question are usually found living in coral reef areas, so i do think that live rock would be nessecary for these kind. But you are right, many of the larger species do not require a reff set up. i though was talking about this shark in particular.

I have read on sites, as I have been resurching the shark sence seeing this post, that they get to be about 40 inches. I have also read that a 125 g tank would be fine for it, yet I have high disbelieve in that.

 

[Ed4567]

http/www.wetwebmedia.com/sharks.htm
Personally I can cope with the smaller species being kept provided adequet conditions are provided but for me keeping the more traditionally shaped sharks is not acceptable.

 

[smithrc]

7x3x2 is about the size of tank they are refering to...

If you ask me thats a small tank when your talking a 5ft shark.

Not on.

Ebay pulled one of my auctions for an old sky card for no real reason... but they will leave this alone no doubt

 

[Iron Man]

Most marine species of fish do not NEED live rock.....its just the best filtration for them as it not only turns ammonia into nitrite, and nitrite into nitrate...but it even has bacteria to do away with nitrates as well. That along with DSBs and protien skimmers keep the nitrates down considerably...even to undetectable readings.....and the biggest concern with the nitrate issue is for the invertebrates and coral life.

If you have a fish only tank most will do just fine with normal filtration and regular maintenance like on a freshwater tank.

 

[wrs]

ach! I had a question about a fish only tank and no live rock a while back and the people at that nano reef said that you NEEDED live rock! Oh and they made me no longer want to do a SW tank!

 

[Paul_MTS]

all depends on what fish you wanted and what you told them.

i'ved been researching marines on here recently for my next project and learnt alot, with live rock you only need extra mechanical filtration.

 

[Iron Man]

I used to have a saltwater set up.....you don't even need mechanical filtration if you have the right setup. With live rock, a DSB, protein skimmer, a reasonable fish load (light for saltwater) and the right "clean up crew" which would consist of invertebrates.....there is no need to filter....only a need to keep the fish fed, the water changed and circulating (powerheads), and the protein skimmer maintained.

There are an endless array of inverts that will do the decay/poop and algae cleaning for you and also stir the deep sand bed (DSB). Worms, shrimp, snails, sea cucumbers, urchins, starfish, etc, etc.

If you are looking to have a nano tank it isn't that hard. Just maintain the amount of water in the tank so that the salt mix content doesn't flunctuate (salt won't evaporate but the water will) too severly, keep the temp at a constant level, make sure your change water is the right temp and mixed with the right amount of salt mix...and you're done.

If you're going to keep anemones or corals then I'd suggest you have live rock and maybe one small fish.

HTH

David

 

[Dorkhedeos]

i dont think salt would cost that much. just buy rock salt.

 

[Paul_MTS]

you have to use marine salt to provide a marine or brackish enviroment.

the marine salts companies make also have minerals in them.

 

[wrs]

all I wanted was a clown fish.

 

[Paul_MTS]

then you do need live rock as it's where they hang out!

 

[wrs]

wouldnt other rocks have worked then?
If so, then that is all you would need for this shark then. Diffrent kind of ocean rock, and that would be cheaper.

One person did say to use dead rock, but noone else replyed after that though.

 

[Iron Man]

Yes you could use any rock safe for freshwater though you wouldn't want to put granite in a saltwater tank.

Dead rock/lace/volcanic....you could even put dried/fake corals in there with a nice arrangement. Those are a lot cheaper than live rock. But you really wouldn't need that much in a nano tank with a clown and maybe a shrimp and snail so the cost wouldn't be much at all.

Clowns don't care what the material is as long as they can "hang out" by it. Their preferred home is an anemone but they are notoriously difficult to take care of.

Anyway....yea the only person I would think who could afford to put premium live rock in a 1000 gallon tank with a shark would be Donald Trump.