Camallanus Worms

[newfishaddict]

I am planning on treating my tanks for camallanus worms for the next 36-40 hrs. I have read that this drug is only effective if the pH is not above 7.0. My pH when lights are off is about 6.9, during the day it is abut 7.1-7.2…..

I think I will leave the lights off for 36hrs during treatment so that my pH is not above 7.0; does this sound like a good idea?

I am concerned about pH dropping too low. I am adding co2 via the yeast DIY method. My KH = 95 and pH is as described above in all of my tanks.

I am going to treat the water with levamisole HCL. I thought that feeding the drug (in food) to the fish with visible signs of camallanus at the same time ; anyone know if feeding at the same time as the whole tank being treated is a good idea?

 

[tttnjfttt]

How long have you been running the co2 for, and how did that change your pH after changing things? Is using a hospital tank an option here? As without the light, the plants will use less co2, which will drop the pH (not sure how much)

 

[newfishaddict]

How long have you been running the co2 for, and how did that change your pH after changing things? Is using a hospital tank an option here? As without the light, the plants will use less co2, which will drop the pH (not sure how much)

My tap water (source water) is Ph 7.8, I have neen adding co2 for 3 months.(massive plant growth has occured, algae has 99% disapeared)

I have heard that I should treat the whole tank not just individual fish becuase the parasite can get into the substrate etc....thus no hospital tank option

Perhaps I will monitor pH and if it gets to 6.8 I will turn on the lights and remove the co2...good idea?



Another question, the treatment method I have read suggest a large water change before treatment, what is the purpose of this? (I did a 35% change 5 days ago)

I am concerned because if I do a water change before the treatment my Ph will go from 7.0 to 7.5, and my medication (levamisole HCL) is only effective at Ph no higher than 7.0; so I assume I should NOT do a pre-treatment water change....?

 

[tttnjfttt]

How are your nitrate levels? I would assume it is to ensure your nitrate levels aren't that high.

I would do the treatment and just monitor the pH closely. adding the med may actually drop the pH some, as the HCL part is an acid.

 

[newfishaddict]

How are your nitrate levels? I would assume it is to ensure your nitrate levels aren't that high.

I would do the treatment and just monitor the pH closely. adding the med may actually drop the pH some, as the HCL part is an acid.

Nitrate is 10ppm, ok or too high?

I will monitor Ph closely and turn on lights and/or remove the co2 if requred.....

 

[tttnjfttt]

the CO2 will help lower the pH, not raise it. Just make sure it doesn't drop too much.

I don't think 10 would be too high, that is lower than alot of tanks.

 

[newfishaddict]

the CO2 will help lower the pH, not raise it. Just make sure it doesn't drop too much.

I don't think 10 would be too high, that is lower than alot of tanks.

Thanks for your help, sorry I caused confusion, I know co2 will lower the ph, I am typing and thinking to fast here , I am panicking that all my fish are going to die...

cheers

I am planning on treating my tanks for camallanus worms for the next 36-40 hrs. I have read that this drug is only effective if the pH is not above 7.0. My pH when lights are off is about 6.9, during the day it is abut 7.1-7.2…..

I think I will leave the lights off for 36hrs during treatment so that my pH is not above 7.0; does this sound like a good idea?

I am concerned about pH dropping too low. I am adding co2 via the yeast DIY method. My KH = 95 and pH is as described above in all of my tanks.

I am going to treat the water with levamisole HCL. I thought that feeding the drug (in food) to the fish with visible signs of camallanus at the same time ; anyone know if feeding at the same time as the whole tank being treated is a good idea?

I am posting in emergencies and planted tanks due to the variety of info I am asking for.

Ok, I am now running into a problem. I have tested my pH, it is 7.1 in both of my tanks of concern...I have read that the drug is not effective above pH 7.0......hmmmm, pretty close! Is this ok? (I have asked this numerous times and I suspect that this is a very difficult question to answer)

I will just leave my lights off and co2 running until the Ph is lower BUT with a kh of 100 will this take a long time?

 

[tttnjfttt]

I doubt it will drop lower than it already has, and if it is moving above 7, i'd try to get it lower. Do a few partial water change, and replace 15% of the water with Distilled water, That will lower your KH and let the CO2 lower it a little further.

 

[newfishaddict]

I doubt it will drop lower than it already has, and if it is moving above 7, i'd try to get it lower. Do a few partial water change, and replace 15% of the water with Distilled water, That will lower your KH and let the CO2 lower it a little further.

I agree except that if I add 15% distilled water that 15% of the tank water will then have no co2 in it, this will take time to get co2 back up, is the difference in KH enough to compensate for that? I GUESS that it is not. I do want to treat with levamisole within an hour.

 

[tttnjfttt]

What is the benefit of adding the levamisole if it may be rendered useless?

 

[newfishaddict]

What is the benefit of adding the levamisole if it may be rendered useless?

There must be some mis-communication. I have READ that it is not effective below pH 7.0, BUT, I KNOW that no drugs effectivness just drops off at an exact pH, it is somewhat gradual sometimes fast sometimes slow. I just would need the activtity vs pH curve for THIS drug, and I was hoping somone on this site might know a link to that information. The drug company said I will have the info in 6 weeks.

Anyway, I just added the drug, 23mL for 55g of a 13.65% solution. I didnt see "hundreds" of worms comming out of the substrate, as others have. I see nothing to note yet....]

My Ph crashed! I removed co2 and turned on lighting....I check the pH and saw lots of yellow, thus it was below 6.8 for the first time. I ran to turn off co2 and turn on lighting.....

I will test pH again...

I didnt think the drug would drop the pH so fast! perhaps adding the meds over a period of days would be a good idea in the future? comments?

Treating my 29g next...(one angel with signs of "Camel Anus"...)

What is the benefit of adding the levamisole if it may be rendered useless?

There must be some mis-communication. I have READ that it is not effective below pH 7.0, BUT, I KNOW that no drugs effectivness just drops off at an exact pH, it is somewhat gradual sometimes fast sometimes slow. I just would need the activtity vs pH curve for THIS drug, and I was hoping somone on this site might know a link to that information. The drug company said I will have the info in 6 weeks.

Anyway, I just added the drug, 23mL for 55g of a 13.65% solution. I didnt see "hundreds" of worms comming out of the substrate, as others have. I see nothing to note yet....]

My Ph crashed! I removed co2 and turned on lighting....I check the pH and saw lots of yellow, thus it was below 6.8 for the first time. I ran to turn off co2 and turn on lighting.....

I will test pH again...

I didnt think the drug would drop the pH so fast! perhaps adding the meds over a period of days would be a good idea in the future? comments?

Treating my 29g next...(one angel with signs of "Camel Anus"...)

Wow, my pH was about 6.6 10 minutes ago. With co2 off and ligthing on it is now 7.0, is this possible in 10 minutes in a 55g? My 55 is not heavliy planted anymore, I would consider it lightly planted with plants growing very well.

 

[tttnjfttt]

Keep a very close eye on it and test frequently until you know how the tank is going to respond. As to if it can be possible, you just saw it happen. It definately isn't good. There is one possibility of misreading the test results.

Just keep a close eye on it, and try to keep it from swinging drastically

 

[newfishaddict]

Keep a very close eye on it and test frequently until you know how the tank is going to respond. As to if it can be possible, you just saw it happen. It definately isn't good. There is one possibility of misreading the test results.

Just keep a close eye on it, and try to keep it from swinging drastically

Thanks again! I suspect misreading test results, Ive worked in a microbiology lab before and all the tests I did in that lab (about 65 different ones) were easier to read then this pH test. With a yellow reading I am certain I was below 7.0 , but it could have been anywhere from 6.9 to 6.4....

I will keep an close eye on it , I am lucky it is the weekend. Even though my boss is a animal lover, she does not like the "I have to stay home for my fish" excuse...hehe

 

[tttnjfttt]

I don't think that one would go over very well with your boss either

 

[newfishaddict]

I don't think that one would go over very well with your boss either

That feels like a bit of a "cut" .... Normally fine but my fish are dying now....