Callamanus Worms Sighted On Bolivian Rams

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I've previously spoke with Wilder about my Bolivian Ram who's poo is white/clear and stringy/not consistent. I've had a good look at him today (my day off) and I have definately spotted fine red hairlike worms protruding from the vent/anus area. I've researched a little and these are nemotodes/callamanus worms.

WHAT SHOULD I DO!?!? Is there a form of Flubenol for fish?

Both my B. Rams are showing signs of this. No other fish, but will their now be nemotode spores in my tank? :huh: :sad:
 
I've previously spoke with Wilder about my Bolivian Ram who's poo is white/clear and stringy/not consistent. I've had a good look at him today (my day off) and I have definately spotted fine red hairlike worms protruding from the vent/anus area. I've researched a little and these are nemotodes/callamanus worms.

WHAT SHOULD I DO!?!? Is there a form of Flubenol for fish?

Both my B. Rams are showing signs of this. No other fish, but will their now be nemotode spores in my tank? :huh: :sad:

going from this (http://www.inkmkr.com/Fish/FlubendazoleTreatment.pdf) I have just emailed the guy to see if he can supply me with the treatment. These worms sound like a NIGHTMARE. I'm not happy. If these things end up infecting ALL my fish.. then I'm giving up :(
 
What's your location for a med.

Levaimsole if you are in the united states.
This med if you are in the uk.

http://www.thegreenmachineaquatics.com/mall/productpage.cfm/Aquatics/_nematol%20001/198936
 
What's your location for a med.

Levaimsole if you are in the united states.
This med if you are in the uk.

Thanks for the reply Wilder ;)
Yeh I'm in Chester, UK. Which med for the UK sorry? Would you know if some fish are more prone to Callamanus than others? From what I've read these are the last thing you want an outbreak of in your tank :/
 
Some fish are more prone to certain parasites than others.
Camallanous worms are usually seen in livebearers but can affect other fish.

Get you some info.

The description you gave does sound like camallanous worms.
Do you have any livebearers in the tank.

I left a link to the sera med seen as you are in the uk.
You have to buy it online.

Camallanus



Symptoms:

When the fish is stationary, deep red worms can be seen protruding from the anal pore. They are only visible when the fish is still because the worms retreat into the intestine at the fish’s slightest movement. Other signs may include an inflamed and enlarged anus. In severe infestations, the fish may become emaciated and spinal curvature may also occur.



Cause:

The parasitic worms Camallanus Cotti and Camallanus lacustris. These small, livebearing parasitic worms attach to the intestinal walls and rectum with pinchers. The worm’s grip is so tight that any attempts to remove it forcibly will rip away tissue from the intestinal wall. The worm’s pinching causes ischemia (reduced blood flow) to that part of the intestine. In time, the tissue to that part of the intestine will die, at which time the worm will migrate to another part of the intestine. This causes perforations throughout the intestine, which allows other pathogens to gain entry. If the fish is not treated, either the parasite or bacterial will kill the fish. Camallanus infestations occur most often in livebearing fish such as Guppies and Mollies, though infection is possible in all fish. Camallanus infestations are contagious. All fish, including those not yet showing visible symptoms, as well as the aquarium, should be treated.



Treatment: United States

Treat with Internal Parasite Guard, Pipzine, Disco-Worm, Trichlorfon or Fluke-Tabs as well as a medicated food to prevent a bacterial infection.

Sera Nematol (UK)


Sera Nematol is a very effective remedy against nematodes such as Camallanus, roundworms (Capillaria) and discus pinworms (oxyurids) for fresh and salt water fish. A sensational R & D success: sera med Professional Nematol is the first ornamental fish treatment against Nematodes that may be sold freely. It is based on a patented Emamectin/solvent complex, highly effective and easy to dose. sera med Professional Nematol is particularly effective against Camallanus and round worms of the genus Capillaria, which mainly occur in angelfish and discus. It can also be optimally used against pinworms (Oxyurida), dreaded by discus keepers. At the same time it combats the small copepods that Camallanus uses as intermediate hosts. Result: With sera Nematol a well tolerated and highly effective ornamental fish treatment that can be sold freely is now available for the first time! It is a liquid and therefore can be dosed easily and precisely.



Dosage for sera Nematol:

Add 1 ml sea Nematol per each 40 litres of aquarium water. Distribute the treatment on the watrer surface from the dosage cup while stirring it into the water with a spoon or staff. Aerate the aquarium well during the treatment, switch off UV-lamps and do not filter through active carbon. A water change of at least 80% must be carried out after two days (or during the treatment if the water gets cloudy). You can combat larvae that have hatched from the eggs in the meantime with a second application of sera Nematol three weeks later.



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Some fish are more prone to certain parasites than others.
Camallanous worms are usually seen in livebearers but can affect other fish.

Get you some info.

The description you gave does sound like camallanous worms.
Do you have any livebearers in the tank.

I left a link to the sera med seen as you are in the uk.
You have to buy it online.

Camallanus




Symptoms:

When the fish is stationary, deep red worms can be seen protruding from the anal pore. They are only visible when the fish is still because the worms retreat into the intestine at the fish’s slightest movement. Other signs may include an inflamed and enlarged anus. In severe infestations, the fish may become emaciated and spinal curvature may also occur.



Cause:

The parasitic worms Camallanus Cotti and Camallanus lacustris. These small, livebearing parasitic worms attach to the intestinal walls and rectum with pinchers. The worm’s grip is so tight that any attempts to remove it forcibly will rip away tissue from the intestinal wall. The worm’s pinching causes ischemia (reduced blood flow) to that part of the intestine. In time, the tissue to that part of the intestine will die, at which time the worm will migrate to another part of the intestine. This causes perforations throughout the intestine, which allows other pathogens to gain entry. If the fish is not treated, either the parasite or bacterial will kill the fish. Camallanus infestations occur most often in livebearing fish such as Guppies and Mollies, though infection is possible in all fish. Camallanus infestations are contagious. All fish, including those not yet showing visible symptoms, as well as the aquarium, should be treated.



Treatment: United States

Treat with Internal Parasite Guard, Pipzine, Disco-Worm, Trichlorfon or Fluke-Tabs as well as a medicated food to prevent a bacterial infection.

Sera Nematol (UK)


Sera Nematol is a very effective remedy against nematodes such as Camallanus, roundworms (Capillaria) and discus pinworms (oxyurids) for fresh and salt water fish. A sensational R & D success: sera med Professional Nematol is the first ornamental fish treatment against Nematodes that may be sold freely. It is based on a patented Emamectin/solvent complex, highly effective and easy to dose. sera med Professional Nematol is particularly effective against Camallanus and round worms of the genus Capillaria, which mainly occur in angelfish and discus. It can also be optimally used against pinworms (Oxyurida), dreaded by discus keepers. At the same time it combats the small copepods that Camallanus uses as intermediate hosts. Result: With sera Nematol a well tolerated and highly effective ornamental fish treatment that can be sold freely is now available for the first time! It is a liquid and therefore can be dosed easily and precisely.



Dosage for sera Nematol:

Add 1 ml sea Nematol per each 40 litres of aquarium water. Distribute the treatment on the watrer surface from the dosage cup while stirring it into the water with a spoon or staff. Aerate the aquarium well during the treatment, switch off UV-lamps and do not filter through active carbon. A water change of at least 80% must be carried out after two days (or during the treatment if the water gets cloudy). You can combat larvae that have hatched from the eggs in the meantime with a second application of sera Nematol three weeks later.



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Thanks again for your time Wilder I appreciate it.

No I don't have any Live Bearers. He definately has two hairlike, red strands coming from the anus. But he is rarely still and they are always visible. Could they be a differnent worm?

I have found this: http://www.inkmkr.com/Fish/CamallanusTreatment/index.html , based in the US I can be sent 'Levamisole HCl powder' 5 grams which treats 100 gallons (mine is 30 gallons). Is this the ingredient found in the Sera Nematol? If so I'll just go for the Sera.
 
Levaimsole is only available in the uk from a vet I think. Sold as a pig wormer.
It's the best med for camallanous worms.

The sera med used to have the ingredients but it's been removed now from the site.
Other members have used the med. Going to do a thread about the sera med in tropical discussion. To see what members have to say about it that have used it.

Camallanous worms do look red and hair like. Can't think of another internal parasite which looks the same.
Thread worms can look like mincemeat, red with white bits.
 
Here's my experience with the cammelanus worm infection my fish had about 3 years ago. Just as some have said here Levamisole was touted as the cure for these pests so I had some shipped from the states from that fella you guys are talking about here in this thread. Levamisole does not work, at least in my case. After several treatments my fish were still infected with the worm. I'm not going to say it doesnt work period, but again, in my case it did not.
I happened to be in one of our local fish stores talking to the owner about the worms. Another customer, a friend of the owner and an avid discus breeder overheard our conversation and joined us. He told me he would give me some Flubendozole as he had success treating cammelanus with it.
A few days later I returned to the store and picked up the Flubendozole that he had left for me.
His instructions were to add 1 teaspoon per 20 gallons of water, or up too one teaspoon per 5 gallons of water. First mix the appropriate amount of Flubendozole into a water bottle filled with aquarium water, then add frozen blood worm or whatever frozen food you have, put the cap on and shake the mixture of bloodworm, water and Flubendozole until most of it had mixed together. Add the contents of the bottle to your aquarium, let the fish eat the treated bloodworm and mix up any flubendozole left floating at the surface.

This treatment did work and not only did I successfully get rid of the cammelanus infection I didnt lose a single fish.

As for changing 100% of your water, then treating, then changing 100% of your water again....blah blah blah...I did none of that. I simply did a 50% water change before treating and 3 days later a second 50% water change followed by a second Flubendozole treatment for another 3 days. On the seventh day I did another 50% water change and left it at that.

Whatever route you choose I hope you get rid of this pest. On a side note, a healthy fish can live for years with cammelanus worms, my bolivian rams, german rams and anglefish were infected for nearly two years before I was able to kill them off with the Flubendozole.
 
Thanks for the reply.
It's good for members to give there experience on treating a desease.

I used flubenol but lost one fish. He was to far gone to save.
Internal parasites damage the organs and cause bacterial infections.
 
oh great, i definitely have this on my female guppy, newly bought two days ago, thanks LFS!

Sera Nematol it is, hope she can hang on for the post to come next week, she's not looking good.
 
Is the fish is still eating, this is the med to use.

http://angelsplus.com/FlakeMedicated.htm

It has fenbendazole in it. Great product. Also, it's VERY cheap.
 

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