Blue Gourami Struggling - Can Anyone Help Please?

[WILDER]

How are the fish today?

 

[fergusek]

How are the fish today?

Hi. Lovely of you to ask thanks Both fish still here and the rest of the community still ok. Tanks just a slight tinge of green now after the meds! Put in 2nd dose this aft.

Black widows gills look much less inflamed tho still red raw. She's eating and swimming about with her 2 black widow mates as she always has, and doesn't actually seem distressed which I find amazing. Her mouths opening and closing a bit faster than her 2 pals but not that much and she's staying at the middle of the tank as normal.

Still not seen gourami eating and the 'mark' or whatever it is at his front underside is still the same. One of my little zebra danios kept going up and pecking the mark?

The gourami stands perfectly still and then moves away, I think to shake off the danio. Every time gourami comes back to his 'spot' at the top of the tank he is almost flat across the very top of the water and can only stay upright when he's standing still by leaning against the very top of the filter inlet pipe - suppose thats clever he knows to do that? I'm looking for a bright side!

Thanks again

 

[WILDER]

Thanks for the update.
Still a long way to go yet.

 

[fergusek]

Thanks Wilder

Will it still take some time after I stop the meds? - last dose went in tonight.

Should I be doing anything else? More water changes as well as the weekly etc?

Appreciate your continued help. Thank you

 

[WILDER]

Not sounding to good then if the last dose went in.
What does it say in the instructions about redosing once the meds course has finished.

How the fish improved alot. Or just a little bit.

 

[fergusek]

Hi Wilder

The black widow doesn't look phased at all. Gills still red underneath but she's not blown up any more.

Saw gourami eating this morning but he is still not as buoyant as he should be. Improved but still 'wobbly'.
The 'mark' is still underneath at his front end and danio's still nibbling at him?

The Esha 2000 instruction says:

Extra heavy dosage - Double the standard 3 day dose for very ill fish, for prevention of egg mould and for fast initial results. In severe cases the secondary dose (days 2 / 3 ) may be continued for a number of days.

The last treatment went in on monday and its now thursday so there's been a gap now.

The instruction leaflet also says -

To treat succesive infection can be used again if fish get infected with another disease after recovering from a previous condition.

I don't know that'd be relevant with whats happened here?

Grateful for any further advice. Many thanks

 

[WILDER]

Do a water change. Then run some black carbon if the instructions tell you too.

Then I would double the dose like the instructions say you can do in severe cases.

 

[fergusek]

Do a water change. Then run some black carbon if the instructions tell you too.

Then I would double the dose like the instructions say you can do in severe cases.

Thanks Wilder

Will do a water change - always good! And try the meds again.

Sorry but I don't know what you mean about running some black carbon?

Gourami was actually swimming about looking for food when I fed the fish this morning. First time since this started. He took a little though he seemed to want to take more but couldn't as he can't stay buoyant without leaning on something?!

And that mark looks like someones had a chunk out of him - got a better look at it. Its not open or raw, looks like its been a chunk tahts healing - like a scar healing kinda look. Rubbish description - sorry.

Thanks again for all your help. You're a star *

 

[WILDER]

Run some black carbon to get the med out of the tank, before you start the course again.
Don't want to overdose.

Just run the black carbon for 24 hours, then start treating again.

 

[fergusek]

Run some black carbon to get the med out of the tank, before you start the course again.
Don't want to overdose.

Just run the black carbon for 24 hours, then start treating again.

Thanks again

You know - black carbon? - you may have hit on something?!

I have an Aqua One, Aquis 1000 filter which is made up of 2 trays:

Top tray - black micron fine filter pad on bottom, white fine wool pad on top

Bottom tray - blue micron coarse filer pad on top, bio balls and noodles om bottom

I didn't take any filters out when dosing with the meds first time and maybe I should have?

Never took out as I didn't think any had carbon in them - still don't as nothing about carbon on filter guide. The filter box says 'Adds biological and mechanical filtration'?

The Esha 2000 meds instruction says: Filtering ? continue to filter over non absorbing materials such as filter wool, sand, gravel etc. Always remove chemical filter media such as activated carbon, UV oxidisers, resins, etc as they can absorb the product or release toxins. Keep filters running day and night.

I'm wondering if the blue or black filters are chemical media filter ?

Sorry to be a complete pest again - any ideas?

Keeping looking on internet about my particular filter

Many thanks

 

[WILDER]

The carbon is usually black coarse sponge. You can also get black balls of carbon I think. But if it hasn't been removed in a while in will be useless anyway.
But it still wants removing, as it can release toxins back into the water after so long.
No need to use it in your filter. It's only good for removing meds from a tank.