Ive posted about a blood parrot that spits her food .. in the last 3 days she stopped to eat at all and she is flashing. ive already tried to tret with prazi and with levamisole and now im treating with Ektol fkuid which contains methylen blue and benzelukim..so far no improvment.. she also seems paler then she used to be.. beacause of the flashing i suspect parasites but what parasites wont be affacted with all of those meds? what do you think? do have reccomendations for other meds? thank you
blood parrot spitting and now not intrested in food
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Any chance of a picture and short 20 second video of the fish?
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If the fish is rubbing on objects, it is most likely protozoan parasites, which won't be affected by the chemicals you have put in the tank. White spot might be treated with Praziquantel but there are other protozoans like Velvet (Oodinium), Costia, Chilodonella and Trichodina that won't be.
Salt treats most external parasites and so does Malachite Green or Copper. Salt is the safest.
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt), sea salt or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.
If you only have livebearers (guppies, platies, swordtails, mollies), goldfish or rainbowfish in the tank you can double that dose rate, so you would add 2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres and if there is no improvement after 48 hours, then increase it so there is a total of 4 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.
Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.
The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria but the higher dose rate will affect some plants. The lower dose rate will not affect plants.
After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that.
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Methylene Blue kills bacteria (including filter bacteria) and fungus. You should monitor the ammonia and nitrite levels for the next month and do big water changes if there is any reading above 0.
Praziquantel only treats tapeworm and gill flukes.
Levamisole only treats some round/ thread worms.
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How often are you doing water changes?
Do you gravel clean the substrate when you do a water change?
How long have you had the fish for?
Have you added anything to the tank within the last 2 weeks before this started?
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Wipe the inside of the glass down.
Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate. Make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it's added to the tank.
Clean the filter if it hasn't been done in the last 2 weeks.
Increase aeration/ surface turbulence to maximise the oxygen levels in the water.
If the pictures are too big for the website, set the camera's resolution to its lowest setting and take some more. The lower resolution will make the images smaller and they should fit on this website. Check the pictures on your pc and find a couple that are clear and show the problem, and post them here. Make sure you turn the camera's resolution back up after you have taken the pics otherwise all your pictures will be small.
If the video is too big for this website, post it on YouTube and copy & paste the link here. We can view it at YouTube. If you are using a mobile phone to take the video, have the phone horizontal so the video takes up the entire screen. If you have the phone vertical, you get video in the middle and black on either side.
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If the fish is rubbing on objects, it is most likely protozoan parasites, which won't be affected by the chemicals you have put in the tank. White spot might be treated with Praziquantel but there are other protozoans like Velvet (Oodinium), Costia, Chilodonella and Trichodina that won't be.
Salt treats most external parasites and so does Malachite Green or Copper. Salt is the safest.
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt), sea salt or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.
If you only have livebearers (guppies, platies, swordtails, mollies), goldfish or rainbowfish in the tank you can double that dose rate, so you would add 2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres and if there is no improvement after 48 hours, then increase it so there is a total of 4 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.
Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.
The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria but the higher dose rate will affect some plants. The lower dose rate will not affect plants.
After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that.
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Methylene Blue kills bacteria (including filter bacteria) and fungus. You should monitor the ammonia and nitrite levels for the next month and do big water changes if there is any reading above 0.
Praziquantel only treats tapeworm and gill flukes.
Levamisole only treats some round/ thread worms.
-------------------------
How often are you doing water changes?
Do you gravel clean the substrate when you do a water change?
How long have you had the fish for?
Have you added anything to the tank within the last 2 weeks before this started?
-------------------------
Wipe the inside of the glass down.
Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate. Make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it's added to the tank.
Clean the filter if it hasn't been done in the last 2 weeks.
Increase aeration/ surface turbulence to maximise the oxygen levels in the water.
Thanks for the respond. Ick and velvet are not the case but the other 2 parasites youv suggested might be. malchit green sounds like a good option, and bout the slt treatment i doubt its effective in the doses youve reccomende. the only dose proven to be affective against external parasites is 30g/liter or 3% bath which is of course only a short bath treatment for a few minutes..
The dose rates I put in my previous post are what I used in the shop and at home to treat fish for external protozoan infections, anchorworm, gill flukes, fungal and minor bacterial infections. The higher doses usually work faster.
If you use Malachite Green, wash your hands with soapy water after using it or working in the tank because it is carcinogenic (causes cancer). Keep it out of reach of children and animals.
If you use Malachite Green, wash your hands with soapy water after using it or working in the tank because it is carcinogenic (causes cancer). Keep it out of reach of children and animals.
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Today she had a weired color change.. during all this period her color was very pale. today a big part of hr body became more orange but there are a few patches on the skin that remain very pale. theres no fuzzy growth, its seems like its her skin.. what do you think this is?
Today she had a weired color change.. during all this period her color was very pale. today a big part of hr body became more orange but there are a few patches on the skin that remain very pale. theres no fuzzy growth, its seems like its her skin.. what do you think this is?
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