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Hi I was just writing a post out and thought it was weird how hard it is to find especially to people new to this forum and also if there are some people totally alien to the idea of a forum. Its such a great section I was thinking it should go on the main navigation on a tab at the top?

Thought it might help people to find - especially at this time of year when we get the inevitable influx of people with new tanks for christmas

Wills
 
I agree completely. I don't actually know where it is, I just have to browse through posts until I see someone with a link in their signature!
 
I'll bring it up with the rest of the moderating team :)
 
Excellent idea +1 on that.

In the meantime, I have I have followed Flute's idea and added the link to my own sig.
 
Just wondered if any updates on this?
 
It is my opinion that a lot of the the information given regarding cycling in the beginner resource section needs to be rewritten as it is either incomplete or flat out incorrect.
 
If you are offering TTA... :p

At the moment I am rushed off my feet with an assignment due in Monday (have yet to properly get beyond note taking!) and new ourse materials delivered for my next (overlapping) course to start on as well as working full time...

Otherwise I would say there is an awful lot of information that needs updating, rewriting or just adding to! I would love to do it myself but I can't and I believe it's just that everyone has a lot on to be moderating forum AND rewriting all the information posts on top of day to day life.

I also think my knowledge on the actual scientific side of cycling is too poor to allow me to change that one much and dislike the whole 'ycling with ammonia' process (just personally i never got on with it...) so would be pointless me changing or writing anything about it :p

This is all being discussed though, it isn't being ignored :)
 
I agree with TTA and the above posts, I would love to see an updated guide on fishless/fish-in cycling posted somewhere prominently. The add daily method is outdated and caused some confusion recently.

When I was researching fishless cycling I had to look all over the net to understand the whole process completely, there's a lot of great information out there (and conflicting information) but it would be nice to have it all compiled in one place. I thought it would be better to have it in a "Guides" section in the tabs at the top, rather than a forum post.

I have the time to do it, but unfortunatley not the experience I fear. My own fishless cycle has not exactly been the best example of how it should work :/
 
I would rewrite it all, but it would likely be a waste of my time since the odds are extremely high it would not be used as a lot of what it would say would contradict many of the things posted by moderators. But if the staff is willing to allow things to stand such as:
- There is a difference between ammonia (NH3) and ammonium (NH4+) and it is important to know what the difference is and what it means for us a fish keepers.
- .25 ppm of total ammonia on most test kits is not a danger in almost all cases of cycling with fish and does not mean one must be doing big water changes.
- The preferred test kits of the site, API ones, are not reliable unless one is aware of what they are measuring and what it means.
- That some bacteria in a bottle products do work.
- That the nitrifying bacteria, once established, are very hardy. They do not die off at the rate of 10% a day, they can survive with no ammonia and little or no oxygen for a good amount of time.
- That plain old fishless cycling should normally be completed in 5 to 6 weeks in the vast majority of cases when done properly and that less time is possible.
- That tanks can be cycled to function in acid pH levels below 6.5 if one knows how to achieve this so. That while too low a pH can impede the normal cycle, this is not the same thing as stopping it.

These are just a few examples of the aquarium myths that need to be flushed out aquarium sites, imo.
 
I think things will only improve if advice is given and discussions are had. Did this just fizzle out or will TTA be updating anything?
 
Personally, and I haven't polled the rest of the mods on this one, I'm more than happy for someone to put some stuff together. I'm no cycling expert, I know what's worked for me but it's far from scientific.
 
Hell, feed me bits to put together into a coherent post and I'll do it once this weekend is over and I can quit worrying about end of financial year problems.
 
If it gets left long enough I'll eventually get around to putting something together then I'll get around to it, but to be honest I suspect that some others will be able to get better information into it than I can.
 
For what it's worth TTA, I don't disagree with anything you've said. As I'm sure you'd agree there's a lot more to it than you've said above, which is why it needs a whole post (and to be honest probably a whole book).
 
In the meantime, I agree with the first few comments that people should at least be able to find the Beginner's Resource Center. I had a heck of a time trying to find it yesterday, and I think if you're just joining this forum that's one of the first things you'd be looking for. I'd put it at the top of the home page. 
 
This Old Spouse said:
In the meantime, I agree with the first few comments that people should at least be able to find the Beginner's Resource Center. I had a heck of a time trying to find it yesterday, and I think if you're just joining this forum that's one of the first things you'd be looking for. I'd put it at the top of the home page. 
Maybe a whole revamp is required? A whole section with updated articles on all the relevant subjects. It sounds like some person or people need to volunteer to help?
 
Indeed but takes a lot of time and very knowledgeable people to not just write the articles again but to go through them and double check all the information given :)
 
Certainly something we are slowly but surely working on :)
 

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