Bad Night For My Fish

[hhosurfer]

I added a UV stabilizer to the tank last night. When doing so I leaned on the tank which must have cause some glue to let loose and the tank started leaking.

I quickly emptied the tank saving what water I could. Because I had to move fast since water was spreading every where.

The fish where left in about 2inches of water which is where the tank stopped leaking.

I placed them all in a plastic bucket (19gallons) but my filters would not fit the lip of the bucket.

I went and got a new tank as petco was closing. 50gallon

After cleaning the tank I replaced all the rocks, water, decorations,

Since i used the same water although not enough I put the fish back in.

One molly is showing popeye this morning and one platty is breathing very heavy while hiding on the bottom.

I added some salt, NovaAqua water conditioner and Nutrafin Cycle Biological Supplement.

These two just seem very stressed. It might be the shock of water change since I had to add about 20gallons of water.

 

[hughessomefish]

Most likly all of your wish wont live because they would be going into a 50gallon uncycled tank, also because they are currently sitting in a bucket that doesn't have a filtration system, I am pretty sure you can buy some sort of silicon glue and that will patch up the first tank that was leaking.

 

[the biffster]

did you use the filters and
everything of your original
tank

 

[hhosurfer]

yes i used the water, filter, rock (only they were partially rinsed)about 25gallons of water was taking from original tank.

The old tank developed a crack along the bottom. found it first thing this morning.

there is no way to save the old tank since the enter bottom with have to be replaced.

So about 25 gallons was all new water with added chemicals to restart tank.

 

[the biffster]

yes i used the water, filter, rock (only they were partially rinsed)about 25gallons of water was taking from original tank.

The old tank developed a crack along the bottom. found it first thing this morning.

there is no way to save the old tank since the enter bottom with have to be replaced.

So about 25 gallons was all new water with added chemicals to restart tank.

if you used the filter and stuff and water
from your old tank and you didn't wash the old filter
in tap water you should just have treated as a water change
top up with dechloronated water and it should be fine
did you use your original gravel /sand /substrate

 

[hhosurfer]

yes all is original. I did not rinse anything since i knew what it meant. I also did a 10% water change the night before but i never emptied that container. for some reason ?? i know now why.

I just don't understand a popeye on the molly

 

[hhosurfer]

they seem to be swimming more now.

The medium sized red platty is the one with issues still. Female maybe 4-6months old. Just sitting on bottom heavy breathing put herself in the corner. The small red platty 1 month old seems to be picking on it. trying to bite the fins.

Doesn't seem to be external injuries. Fins are full. So no sign of fin rot. She seems to be a little fatter the normal.

I don't thin she is pregnant.

Then there is popeye. Who really didnt show signs of anything wrong until this entire thing happen.

UGH

 

[Bexx]

What a nightmare, hope it all works out OK. Keep us posted.

 

[OldMan47]

The only issue that I can see for your tank is the popeye. Doing a very large water change where you retain the original filter will be no problem at all for your fish. Having a fish show symptoms of popeye is another thing entirely. I would post in the tropical emergencies section to get help on that subject, unfortunately very few of us here are truly good at fish diseases.

 

[hhosurfer]

thanks for all your help. It is now 24hrs and the water is still crystal clear. Which is a very good sign.

The other mollies seem to be having a good time in the larger tank.

The small platty turns out is a male which maybe why he is biting the medium female who isn't moving much,

I have added some backing soda and some kosher salt since i am out of aquarium salt.

This should help to calm stressed fish and help heal any injuries that may have occurred during the frantic RUSH change of tanks.

 

[the biffster]

let me know how you get on
glad to see the rest have settled
in whats your tank stats at the moment
on the tank

 

[hhosurfer]

update been a few days now

water is crystal clear. I almost think it is clearer now then before. Might be clear glass but... still i would have expected some cloudiness until it the bio starts in again.

The platty may have got dropsy or something similar. I used a large cup added kosher salt teaspoon and dipped her in there 2days in a row.

She almost went to eat today. She hasnt had food that I have seen since Sunday.

The Molly with popeye seems to have gone down. I gave her a salt bath also.

The salt bath might be doing the trick.

Thanks for all your help

 

[OldMan47]

Clear water is totally meaningless HHO. Most of my breeding tanks have somewhat cloudy water due to small floating particles in the water. The water chemistry is far more important than the appearance.
It is very important that levels of ammonia and nitrite be kept so low that you cannot measure them using a liquid type test kit and that you not allow your nitrate levels to get away from you. As long as ammonia and nitrites are kept below 0.25 ppm, you can expect your fish to thrive, even if the water is cloudy to the eye. You can expect your fish in crystal clear water with either ammonia or nitrites above 0.25 ppm to suffer long term damage and possibly even death depending on the chemical concentrations.
Salt is often a medication of choice for mild illnesses of almost any tropical fish but should only be used once you have diagnosed a disease. "Dropsy" is a symptom description, not a disease. It describes a bloated fish that often has scales sticking out like a pinecone. It is like describing an infection of your upper respiratory tract as pneumonia. Pneumonia describes the symptoms but gives no clue on how to treat the underlying disease actual disease.
Popeye is another symptom that is often symptomatic of poor water quality.
The problems you are describing lead me to think that what your fish really need is an immediate huge water change of 50% or more of the water. After that, when the fish seem to be acting better, try another large water change the next day for even more help for your fish. Remember that a new filter is simply a piece of hardware that has the potential to become an acceptable filter some day. The process of converting that hardware into a true biological filter often takes 6 weeks or more. We call that process cycling. I have a link in my signature area that will lead you to a fish-in cycle thread so that you can understand the situation that you have found yourself in.