Are My Stats Ok

[CheniseMummy]

I transfered my 4 danios into a new tank its 90l they were moved with there fluval 1 filter from a 15l tank. They have been moved for 1.5weeks

There new set up is:

2 x 25w lighting
1 aquaruim internal filter 400lph
1 fluval 1 internal filter
150 tronic heater currently water temp is 26 heater is switched off
4 gold zebra danios
Live tall grass hair plants
1 moss ball

The stats from previouse tank est 5m A 0, Nititre 0, Nitrate 5.

I am currently getting results of:
Yesterday Morning Ammonia 0-0.6, Nitrite 0.3, Nitrate 5 30% water change siphoned out old food left from bf feeding while i was away.

yesterday evening 9.30 Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0.1, Nitrate 5 50% water change

Today 6.30pm Ammonia 0-0.6, Nitrite 0.1, Nitrate 5.

Am i in a mini fish in cycle, are the levels safe or should i be doing more water changes. I would like to add more fish but i need to wait unill im getting double 0 is that right.

 

[CheniseMummy]

Hi Someone please can they help as im not sure the levels are safe for my fish.

Do i need to do more water changes? I didnt do a cycle before on my old tank. The master test kit says it at safe levels. I am going to do another test this monring and post results. I would really like and help regarding my stats and if its normal or am i cycling

 

[Wills]

Hi what test kit are you using?

With Nitrite at 1 you are in a mini cycle perhaps add some more plants like valis or some big sword plants to soak up some nutrients along with the cycle you are experiencing. Just keep on top of big w/c and it will be good

Safe levels are 0 for ammonia and nitrite and as low as possible for your nitrate which is often dependant on your tap water like for me my tap water is 50ppm nitrate which isnt particularly great but just what I have to deal with.

Wills

 

[CheniseMummy]

I am using a nutrafin test kit.

My fish are now not eating and when i turn on the lights they just stay motionless at top of tank with clamped fins, when i turn off lights they swim around more and fins apear normal if a little clamped. Two are swimming through the hair gras alot and also seem to be rubbing the gravel. One of them has a bulge in the stomach that seems to get larger then smaller of its own accord.

I have some plants on order to including vallis and sword plants but they will not be here till nexct week.
I feel like this is such hard work just keeping some small danios.

My water today is Ammonia 0-0.6. Nitite 0.1. nitrate 5 is same as tap water.

I dont know what to do to make them better, is this just the water causing these problems, otherwise i keep clean tank, they are fed on mixture of flakes, bloodworms and shelled peas occasionlly.

Thanks for your reply

 

[Wills]

Hi I think the issues with your danios are from the water quality I am not familiar with the nutrafin test kit but I know a few members are so they will chip in soon I think (if not Ill message them) But any traces of ammonia and nitrite are bad and could explain a bit of the issues with your fish like the flicking on the gravel. As it burns their gills so they try to rub it off.

Keep up with the water changes and it should come right. Also cut down on the feeding a little just do flake or bloodworm once a day but only a small ammount.

Wills

 

[OldMan47]

Your ammonia levels are at deadly values if you do nothing about them. Try doing a simple 75% water change with appropriate dechlorination and temperature matching. You might be surprised at how well your fish will respond to that.

 

[CheniseMummy]

Right I have more results

today this morning Ammonia 0, Nitite 0.3 Nitate 5
Fish were flicking

75% water change and i cleaned filters in tank water id removed, filled up again with water with added stress coat. I put in 11.5ml for my 90l tank.

I tested again this afternoon at 5.30

Ammonia is 0, Nitrite 0.3, Nitrate 20, Ph 7.5

I added some stresszyme 11.5ml thinking this will help. As i cant perform a water change till kids are in bed. Is this a good idea.

I'm thinking that now the ammonia is processing into nitites and then into nitates as these values are rising. Somehow i have got into a cycle maybe the bacteria died when i moved it into the other filter.

Thanks for your help, i have now only 3 danios as the one with curved spined died after the water change. I am not goign to feed them untill this is over with as they are not eating.

 

[mark4785]

You need to remove close to 100% of the water to remove nitrite and it is my understanding that nitrite is not a plant nutrient so i'm not sure plants will resolve a wrong nitrite reading.

 

[CheniseMummy]

ok filling up my tank with close to 90l will be tough as ive got to use the upstairs bath to fill up my 20l tub then carry downstairs and then slowly add back into tank. Can i use stress coat then attach hose to tap. its not a mixter tap so would fish be ok with water temp.

Any tips on how to fill tank with water much appreciated as i'm getting a sore back from all the carrying, lifting. I cant use a jug as nothing safe to hand.

 

[Harlequins]

Personally i wouldn't do a 100% w/c,this wouldn't help the fish and may stress them more has you'd be completely changing the water they're in...

Nitrite 0.3ppm isn't excessive,but all the same its not good to have it there.

Carry on with w/c if you show any ammonia &/or nitrite,then preform w/c's of 50-75% depending on the reading,say for instance you do a 50% w/c,let the water settle for a while,test again,if its still showing nitrite,then do another w/c.try to temp match has best you can

And feed very minimal.

 

[OldMan47]

With nitrites at about 0.30, a 50% water change should be enough in the short term. Water does indeed get heavy when you need to move very much. I have found that my buckets are not nearly as heavy when only filled half way. (hint)

 

[CheniseMummy]

Ok well i did a 50% water change and got these results. i tested about 5min later not sure if i should have waited longer. Yes filling it up half way is good idea just means double the trips. Think i need to get bf to get line going with another bucket.

Ammonia back to 0.6, Nitrites 0.1 didnt test for nitrates as my chinese arrived.

Tested this morning

Ammonia 0, Nitrits 0.3, Nitrates 10

Should i do another 50% water change this morning, ive been two 50% water changes a day, shouldnt the nitrites be coming down. I have 3 danios and reading the fish in cycling guide it recommends i have 5 danios in my tank when cycling as i seem to be cycling should i get two more to get it to the correct ratio for my tank.

Thanks in advance

 

[OldMan47]

When you have high chemical levels, you never add more fish. If one dies, you leave that hole open and continue trying to keep the tank healthy. A 90 litre tank is fine for 3 zebra danios to cycle. That means you have one for each 15 to 20 litres of actual water. The rest of the tank is filled with gravel, ornaments and whatever else you have in the tank, even the air at the top is part of the volume. As you are experiencing, the zebras are producing plenty of ammonia in your tank to support the cycling process and enough extra to put you on an exercise program with the water changes.
The live plants are certainly helping out. The ammonia you had in the previous sample should have pushed you to about 1.0 ppm of nitrites but I suspect the plants removed some of the missing ammonia and prevented it becoming nitrites. When you are changing large amounts of water daily, there is not much point in testing for nitrates. They cannot possibly get to dangerous levels while you are doing large daily water changes. By now your nitrate levels are probably very close to tap water readings.

 

[CheniseMummy]

When you have high chemical levels, you never add more fish. If one dies, you leave that hole open and continue trying to keep the tank healthy. A 90 litre tank is fine for 3 zebra danios to cycle. That means you have one for each 15 to 20 litres of actual water. The rest of the tank is filled with gravel, ornaments and whatever else you have in the tank, even the air at the top is part of the volume. As you are experiencing, the zebras are producing plenty of ammonia in your tank to support the cycling process and enough extra to put you on an exercise program with the water changes.
The live plants are certainly helping out. The ammonia you had in the previous sample should have pushed you to about 1.0 ppm of nitrites but I suspect the plants removed some of the missing ammonia and prevented it becoming nitrites. When you are changing large amounts of water daily, there is not much point in testing for nitrates. They cannot possibly get to dangerous levels while you are doing large daily water changes. By now your nitrate levels are probably very close to tap water readings.

Thanks for your help, How long is the qualifying period is it one week with Ammonia 0 and Nitites 0 or two.

 

[CheniseMummy]

When you have high chemical levels, you never add more fish. If one dies, you leave that hole open and continue trying to keep the tank healthy. A 90 litre tank is fine for 3 zebra danios to cycle. That means you have one for each 15 to 20 litres of actual water. The rest of the tank is filled with gravel, ornaments and whatever else you have in the tank, even the air at the top is part of the volume. As you are experiencing, the zebras are producing plenty of ammonia in your tank to support the cycling process and enough extra to put you on an exercise program with the water changes.
The live plants are certainly helping out. The ammonia you had in the previous sample should have pushed you to about 1.0 ppm of nitrites but I suspect the plants removed some of the missing ammonia and prevented it becoming nitrites. When you are changing large amounts of water daily, there is not much point in testing for nitrates. They cannot possibly get to dangerous levels while you are doing large daily water changes. By now your nitrate levels are probably very close to tap water readings.

Thanks for your help, How long is the qualifying period is it one week with Ammonia 0 and Nitites 0 or two.

11.00 am Ammonia 0, Nitrites 0.3

80% WATER CHANGE

11.30 AM

Ammonia 0
Nitites 0

Fish are showing red streaks and blotches under there scales. I dont think they are going to make it long term.