Are Any Of These Pebbles Safe For My Tank?

fizzing bad yeah, mean it's an akline stone will mess with ph leavels. harlequin like a group like neons 5-6 is good. how are the neon's with columnaris? it might just be that they are pecking at the other's as a result of this, weaker fish and all?
2 or 3 have little lumps....hence why I haven't been able to return them to LFS yet until they are cured :) to be honest because they are juvvies I think they were doing it when they felt hungry.....as they'd leave him alone after I fed them all which I do in the evenings....but if i was home to see, they'd go at him in the daytime....little b*stards!
 
i don't know a lot about betta's sorry :blush: but i have been lead to beleave that they are best kept on there own?? this is just what i've heard? ithink the other fish are jelous? lets hope the Harlequin's won't be as bad.
 
i don't know a lot about betta's sorry :blush: but i have been lead to beleave that they are best kept on there own?? this is just what i've heard? ithink the other fish are jelous? lets hope the Harlequin's won't be as bad.
lol yeah many do believe that....maybe for some hassle it would be true, but my betta gets on fine with the danios, and he is very placid himself, he even joins in with the danios darting about sometimes :)
and the plec keeps himself to himself....hence why I want the tetra to go cos it seemed silly sectioning the betta off when he's not done anything wrong and is perfectly happy with the other fish....just need something that won't fin-nip :) and i've read harlequins are very very docile....maybe even timid :)
 
yeah, i kinda of agree with that 'timid' quite a nice fish. as for the plec's no one seems to bother them, all mine dose is eat and poo, eat when my reed fish sit on him he just carry's on eatting. (and pooing) lol. how big's your tank any way?
 
yeah, i kinda of agree with that 'timid' quite a nice fish. as for the plec's no one seems to bother them, all mine dose is eat and poo, eat when my reed fish sit on him he just carry's on eatting. (and pooing) lol. how big's your tank any way?
mine's a juwel rekord 60.....55 litres 60X30X30
my pleco is only mini, pitbulls only grow to 7cm :) so perfect for a mini sucker!
 
This testing & boiling is all pretty unnecessary, in my opinion.

First and foremost, what is your current pH, KH, and GH? If the pH is high already and the KH and GH are high, the addition of some rocks what may be alkaline aren't going to matter a lick.

Secondly, how much are you going to add? Estimate what percentage of substrate will be these pebbles you found? 1%? 5%? 10%? The reason I ask is again, if it is only a small amount of pebbles you are going to add, it isn't going to matter.

Thirdly, boiling can be dangerous because if there is an air pocket in the rock and you heat up that air pocket... increased temperature in a gas means increased pressure in a gas, especially when the volume is held constant, and the rock may pop and shoot high velocity projectiles at you. Or at the very least damage your pot. A good cleaning, I'd use soap and water, but if you feel a really strong need you can use bleach, and then a very, very good rinsing is sufficient.

Part of the issue here is, if you think about it, what can that rock have on it that can be dangerous to fish? The majority of fish parasites/diseases are obligate fish parasites -- that is, they have to have fish to continue their life cycles. Ich, for example, has to have fish, otherwise the parasite will die. Unless you got these pebbles from a polluted beach, or were buried in the nest of some other animal or some otherwise extraordinary circumstances, they are going to be safe. One of the biggest things to make sure that there is nothing dangerous to fish on them is to spread them out and let them dry off. Very, very few things that are dangerous to fish can survive being dried out.

Finally, if you do insist on testing how alkaline the rocks are, the vinegar test isn't too accurate. Vinegar is a very weak acid, and it takes a very acidic rock to see significant fizzing. If you have a 2 bottle nitrate test, you can use the liquid in the second bottle. It is nitric acid, a strong acid, and is much more likely to react significantly than a weak acid.
 
This testing & boiling is all pretty unnecessary, in my opinion.

First and foremost, what is your current pH, KH, and GH? If the pH is high already and the KH and GH are high, the addition of some rocks what may be alkaline aren't going to matter a lick.

Secondly, how much are you going to add? Estimate what percentage of substrate will be these pebbles you found? 1%? 5%? 10%? The reason I ask is again, if it is only a small amount of pebbles you are going to add, it isn't going to matter.

Thirdly, boiling can be dangerous because if there is an air pocket in the rock and you heat up that air pocket... increased temperature in a gas means increased pressure in a gas, especially when the volume is held constant, and the rock may pop and shoot high velocity projectiles at you. Or at the very least damage your pot. A good cleaning, I'd use soap and water, but if you feel a really strong need you can use bleach, and then a very, very good rinsing is sufficient.

Part of the issue here is, if you think about it, what can that rock have on it that can be dangerous to fish? The majority of fish parasites/diseases are obligate fish parasites -- that is, they have to have fish to continue their life cycles. Ich, for example, has to have fish, otherwise the parasite will die. Unless you got these pebbles from a polluted beach, or were buried in the nest of some other animal or some otherwise extraordinary circumstances, they are going to be safe. One of the biggest things to make sure that there is nothing dangerous to fish on them is to spread them out and let them dry off. Very, very few things that are dangerous to fish can survive being dried out.

Finally, if you do insist on testing how alkaline the rocks are, the vinegar test isn't too accurate. Vinegar is a very weak acid, and it takes a very acidic rock to see significant fizzing. If you have a 2 bottle nitrate test, you can use the liquid in the second bottle. It is nitric acid, a strong acid, and is much more likely to react significantly than a weak acid.
Firstly they are from last summer, so they've been sat on my desk for months on end, I don't plan to add too many though if they are safe I'd possibly wnt some bigger ones...only 1 or 2 though....probably add 3 or 4 of what I have then maybe at a later stage 1 or 2 bigger ones.
I do have bottle #2 for nitrate so yeah I could use that :)
Thanks for your help!
 
i've always used api nitrate test bottle #1, which contains 41% HCl.
 
i've always used api nitrate test bottle #1, which contains 41% HCl.

caleno, you're right. I completely mis-remembered -- what bottle and what acid is in it. But, here's the proof: [URL="http://cms.aquariumpharm.com:8080/resource...TestKit_673.pdf"]http://cms.aquariumpharm.com:8080/resource...TestKit_673.pdf[/URL]

That's the MSDS (material safety data sheet) for the API nitrate test, and test solution #1 is 40% hydrochloric acid.

Good catch.

p.s. and no, I don't think that the second bottle will do anything for the test. I remembered incorrectly.
 
i've always used api nitrate test bottle #1, which contains 41% HCl.

caleno, you're right. I completely mis-remembered -- what bottle and what acid is in it. But, here's the proof: <a href="http://cms.aquariumpharm.com:8080/resource...TestKit_673.pdf" target="_blank">http://cms.aquariumpharm.com:8080/resource...TestKit_673.pdf</a>

That's the MSDS (material safety data sheet) for the API nitrate test, and test solution #1 is 40% hydrochloric acid.

Good catch.

p.s. and no, I don't think that the second bottle will do anything for the test. I remembered incorrectly.
ok bottle #1 :) cheers!
do I need to use loads and completely submerdge the pebbles, or does pouring it over tell you?
 

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