ok heres another link to prove my point http/www.usaquatic.com/Chemicals_Ap-Aquarium-Salt-33Oz
grimmy, grimmy, grimmy, don't you think that a company's website -- a company that wants you to buy its product -- isn't going to tell the whole complete truth? Never mind that I (and others) already completely destroyed pretty much every "point" that website tries to make. "Add Natural Electrolytes" --> The water already has all the electrolytes the fish ever needs, it doesn't need extra added. "Improve Gill Function" --> How? By what mechanism? Is a lot of nitrite is present, to a certain degree, yes, but in general, no. The statement made by the product's manufacturer doesn't include any qualifiers, so I have to assume that it means in general. But, it is just garbage. "Reduce Fish Stress" --> I already explained in your old salt thread how fish don't need to be reduced of their osmotic stress, in fact, they will probably feel worse if they are, just like if we are reduced from atmospheric stress.
So, the claims are all just bunk, and on top of that, we've shown how many freshwater fish will become sick and die because they are intolerant of salt.
grimmy, just because a website (or tv ad, or magazine ad, or any other kind of ad) says something is true, that doesn't mean it is. Do you really think that those miracle weight loss pills from North East Iceland that they advertise on late night TV really work? Do you really think that those miracle magnetic bracelets really increase your energy and decrease the amount of toxins in your body? Do you really think that you can x-ray goggles from that ad in the back of the comic book?
grimmy, if you really believe these things, I've got a bridge to sell you. I can even make a webpage for ya if you want.
I can even up the ante -- if I make a webpage claiming that you have purple skin with pink polka dots, does that make it so? It's on the Internet, it must be true, right? Don't you think that for such a claim to be believed, I'd have to provide some evidence?
I'm going to assume that you answered yes to that..
So, why is it you just accept the word of the salt manufacturer at face value? Why don't you ask for at least some evidence to back up their statements? Why continue to ignore the evidence against their statements? Do you not understand the arguments against it? If you don't, please, by all means, ask questions so we can clarify the difficulties or misconceptions that may exist.
What is the root of this stubbornness? Is it really going to shake your world view so much if salt isn't this great super miracle tonic that it's been hyped to be? Why this intentional ignorance of all the evidence around you? You don't have to accept everything someone tells you to believe, it is okay to question things and ask for evidence to support them. It's a good habit to have. It will save you money, and won't expose you to the many, many scam artists out there. Asking for proof just makes sure that you are getting your money's worth before you buy anything -- if you've got extra money to waste send it my way.
I just want you to learn how to think for yourself and learn to critique what is being told to you. A manufacturer's website obviously has an ulterior motive to sell you something. They are going to say whatever they can, without being blatantly lying (though that doesn't stop some!), to make the sale. The motive of the members on this fish forum are what is best for the fish. I don't work for any fish company at all, so I don't have any motive for what you spend your fish budget on. I just want what is best for your fish. That's why I am trying to inform you of what science has discovered to date. And, that's my motive, to inform you and the other forum members, to help them do what is best for their fish.
grimmy, I do hope that you will think about what I've said here, and I also do hope that you will respond after thinking about it. Again, I make the offer to personally answer any questions you have. It is not shameful to not understand something. Nobody was born knowing everything -- it all had to be learned at some point. It is okay to admit that you don't completely understand a term, or concept, or idea. But, if you do keep trying to argue about something that you don't understand and you remain ignorant about it, that is disgraceful and dishonorable. In order to intelligently argue something, you need to understand as much as you possibly can about it, from both sides of the argument. So, again, if you have any questions at all, please, please, please ask. Either here or PM me, I am very happy to help you if you want it.
I look forward to your response.
