Apistogramma From Peru
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KirkyArcher
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I've just got a pair of apistogramma Agazzisii(Agazzisi's dwarf Cichlid) I think they are from or close to Peru, definitely South American and a nice looking fish (if a little shy) http
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KirkyArcher
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Mine (a single pair) are living quite contently with a shoal of Silvertip tetra, rummy nosed tetra, and about a dozen Corydoras, they should not be mixed with other types of Apistogramma, think its the usual case of having a higher ratio of females than males to prevent/reduce aggression 3 or 4 females for every 1 male from what my LFS owner recomended (providing tank dimensions are going to be adequate for such stocking)
They live in good sized shoals in nature, with lots of females per male, however, the aggression is spread, like in a malawi tank and you don't get problems (well, not too many).
I've heard of people planning these set ups, but they tend to go quiet (I suspect due to the tank needing to be large and well maintained, along with the cost of the fish, resulting in other things being put in such a nice tank).
Traditionally they're kept in the hobby in small harem groups, 1-3 females per male, which spread male to female aggression, but do look out for female to female aggression, they'll want plenty of secluded cave like areas to call their own.
I've also had mixed results with them with cories. Most ignored cories unless they were breeding, a few hated them and forced them to be moved to another tank. I suspect that the flame colour variant is more aggressive.
I've heard of people planning these set ups, but they tend to go quiet (I suspect due to the tank needing to be large and well maintained, along with the cost of the fish, resulting in other things being put in such a nice tank).
Traditionally they're kept in the hobby in small harem groups, 1-3 females per male, which spread male to female aggression, but do look out for female to female aggression, they'll want plenty of secluded cave like areas to call their own.
I've also had mixed results with them with cories. Most ignored cories unless they were breeding, a few hated them and forced them to be moved to another tank. I suspect that the flame colour variant is more aggressive.
I was thinking of replacing my kribensis I'm my 70 litre because they are quite big fish with some apistogramma. In the 70 litre there would be 7 rummynose tetra and then the apistogramma. How many apistogramma do you think I could have in the 70 litre with the 7 rummies. Also what other types of apistogrammas are there that are very colourful and I don't mind rare ones either from Tom
Have a look through this list, Seal; http/www.fishbase.org/identification/SpeciesList.php?genus=Apistogramma
Plenty to whet your appetite; you can search by country, as well
You might find some of them hard to find though.
/www.fishbase.org/identification/SpeciesList.php?genus=ApistogrammaPlenty to whet your appetite; you can search by country, as well
You might find some of them hard to find though.
Thank you for the list some of them look amazing. Also the supplier said he could only get wild caught apistogramma so will this affect the tank mates that it can have in there and I was thinking in the 70 litre
7 rummies
3 or 4 apistogramma 1 make and 2 or 3 female
How does that sound
7 rummies
3 or 4 apistogramma 1 make and 2 or 3 female
How does that sound
Wild caught just means you have to be bit careful to match pH and hardness (definitely drip acclimatise them) and keep your nitrate as low as possible.
Be prepared to feed them up a bit with live or frozen food, as they might not recognise flake or pellets at first.
All those things should be done before your supplier sells them, but they're not always done, or done properly.
Oh, and that stocking should be fine for a 70l, although if you get a pair form, they might harass the unpaired female/s, so keep an eye out.
Be prepared to feed them up a bit with live or frozen food, as they might not recognise flake or pellets at first.
All those things should be done before your supplier sells them, but they're not always done, or done properly.
Oh, and that stocking should be fine for a 70l, although if you get a pair form, they might harass the unpaired female/s, so keep an eye out.
Yes I would defiantly drip acclimatise them. Do you know what the water stats are over in Peru. I will defiantly make sure I have lots of live and frozen food for them. What will they be used to seeing food wise. I will check with the supplier to see if they do all of that and will defiantly check for nasty behaviour between a pair and other females and is it possible that the male would pair up with all the females from Tom
Most apistos come from fairly soft, acidic waters; usually around 6.5 pH, but some areas go as low as 4!
Softness is the most important thing, although this will all happen at the importer/supplier; you want to match their water, rather than what's in Peru, as the fish will already have had new water at the importers or at the shop.
Live daphnia or, if you can't get that, brine shrimps, should get them eating, if you have problems.
Males can mate with more than one female, yes; often it's the female/female aggression that's worst; males tend to fight amongst themselves, so if there's only one male, he doesn't bother, whereas females will fight for his attention and the best breeding caves/stones.
Softness is the most important thing, although this will all happen at the importer/supplier; you want to match their water, rather than what's in Peru, as the fish will already have had new water at the importers or at the shop.
Live daphnia or, if you can't get that, brine shrimps, should get them eating, if you have problems.
Males can mate with more than one female, yes; often it's the female/female aggression that's worst; males tend to fight amongst themselves, so if there's only one male, he doesn't bother, whereas females will fight for his attention and the best breeding caves/stones.
My p.h is 7.4 and my water hardness is 12d so do you think I should look at other fish. I will make sure that there are lots of caves and that it's well planted to try and make sure that the violence is reduced from Tom.
No, you just want to choose an apisto species that doesn't come from very soft water.
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