Any More Room?

[love_fish]

Hello, I'm wondering if I have any room for a dwarf gourami, with a 29 gallon tank inhabited by:

4 Platies
4 Guppies
6 Neons
3 Cardinals
6 Cories

Any room for a 2 inch dwarf gourami.

 

[WILDER]

I would say one more and that's it, as tetra's are not big waste producers, dosn't your other gourami nip the tails of the guppies.

Though according to this if you have 2 males a big tank and plenty of hiding spaces.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=35308

 

[love_fish]

What do you mean my other gourami? This will be my first one..

 

[WILDER]

Sorry,though he might not get along with the guppies as they are fin nippers.

 

[Torrean]

Dwarf gourami are happiest with 1 male 2 females but I have one male in my 55 and he seems fairly happy. They are great little fish btw.

 

[Durbkat]

Not meaning to be rude but I hate gourami's because every time I got one it was mean and it attacked my other fish and even attack its own kind. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Ethos]

Your not going to be looking at much with that arrangement.
Maybe a Angel?

 

[WILDER]

Then the neons and cardinals are not safe with an angel.

 

[Ethos]

Thats not necesarrily true.
My people have had sucess with tetras and angels. Many people have also not had great luck.
Its really just the attitud of the fish.
But I'd suggest a bigger fish for a center peice

 

[love_fish]

Then the neons and cardinals are not safe with an angel.

Yea, I was considering them, but then i thought of that.

So this will be ok then? Just one male dwarf Gourami?

EDIT - A bigger fish?

Can I fit a regular type of Gourami in there (3.5 in maybe more)?

 

[grumpymole]

i love my gourami and i seem to have been very lucky as none in my gourami tank are fighters and are not even chasing each other that often.
i'd be a bit worried about sticking a dwarf in with guppys though as those tails could grab the attention of even the most passive fish...

 

[love_fish]

i love my gourami and i seem to have been very lucky as none in my gourami tank are fighters and are not even chasing each other that often.
i'd be a bit worried about sticking a dwarf in with guppys though as those tails could grab the attention of even the most passive fish...

I tihnk they keep the dwarf gouramis with a couple guppys in my LFS, and they look fine. IDK, I'll ask them and see what they have to say about that too.

Anyone else know if this will pose as a problem?

 

[sylvia]

The dwarf gourami is fine and a single male is perfectly fine on his own. Just keep in mind that dwarf gouramies are a little fragile so make sure to pick out a very healthy looking one from a healthy tank from a reputable LFS. Dwarf gouramies won't normaly bother anything other than other dwarf gouramies (and then it's only the males that do this chasing). Make sure you have some kind of tall plant or floating plant for him so he can set up a territory and make him feel comfortable and make sure this spot is away from strong currents.

As for your comment Durbkat on gourami aggression, you clearly did not have your gourami(es) in the right set-up. What kind of gourami did you have? Dwarf gouramies are peaceful unless over-crowded with only males being territorial and ignoring most other species of fish. Gouramies are a very wide-ranging group of fish. Just as you can get peaceful keyholes, aggressive mbuna, the dwarf rams, tiny shell-dwellers or sensitive discus when it comes to cichlids, you can get giant osphronemus gouramies, tiny sparklers, peaceful pearls, soltary, highly-territorial bettas, or aggressive paradisefish in gouramies. You can't not generalise and say 'gouramies are aggressive'. That's like saying 'birds are small (before anyone actualy decides that's true - ostrich, albatross etc)'

As for keeping angels. You don't have room for a 6" fish, first of all. Even if you did, angels don't work with guppies and, regardless of the fact that some people have managed to raise angels with neons and not get deaths, the risk of the angel eating the neons is still there and I don't like risking the fish' lives for the sake of aesthetics. besides this 'moral' reason, single angels have a tendency towards becoming aggressive and terrorize their tankmates. In a small tank with such small, very peaceful species, your fish would all likely suffer once the lone angel reached sexual maturity.

 

[Durbkat]

The dwarf gourami is fine and a single male is perfectly fine on his own. Just keep in mind that dwarf gouramies are a little fragile so make sure to pick out a very healthy looking one from a healthy tank from a reputable LFS. Dwarf gouramies won't normaly bother anything other than other dwarf gouramies (and then it's only the males that do this chasing). Make sure you have some kind of tall plant or floating plant for him so he can set up a territory and make him feel comfortable and make sure this spot is away from strong currents.

As for your comment Durbkat on gourami aggression, you clearly did not have your gourami(es) in the right set-up. What kind of gourami did you have? Dwarf gouramies are peaceful unless over-crowded with only males being territorial and ignoring most other species of fish. Gouramies are a very wide-ranging group of fish. Just as you can get peaceful keyholes, aggressive mbuna, the dwarf rams, tiny shell-dwellers or sensitive discus when it comes to cichlids, you can get giant osphronemus gouramies, tiny sparklers, peaceful pearls, soltary, highly-territorial bettas, or aggressive paradisefish in gouramies. You can't not generalise and say 'gouramies are aggressive'. That's like saying 'birds are small (before anyone actualy decides that's true - ostrich, albatross etc)'

As for keeping angels. You don't have room for a 6" fish, first of all. Even if you did, angels don't work with guppies and, regardless of the fact that some people have managed to raise angels with neons and not get deaths, the risk of the angel eating the neons is still there and I don't like risking the fish' lives for the sake of aesthetics. besides this 'moral' reason, single angels have a tendency towards becoming aggressive and terrorize their tankmates. In a small tank with such small, very peaceful species, your fish would all likely suffer once the lone angel reached sexual maturity.

I had 2 opaline gouramis in a heavily planted long 20g tank and the bigger one attacked and chased the slighty smaller one until it died then the bully died of ick because I was isolating it because I had already put my tetras in the tank and he was attacking and chasing them and while he was being isolated he got ick and died since I didn't have a heated tank with no other fish to put him in for treatment.

 

[Inchworm]

Hi love_fish

I think a dwarf gourami would be fine in your tank if your filter doesn't make too much current for it. A regular sized gourami could be too aggressive to keep with those small fish, once it matures anyway.

If you add a few floating plants to your tank, the gourami will appreciate them.