Angelfish Tank Setup?

[Mcbenthy]

2 angels
24 tetras-3 shoals, 8 each
5 panda corys
Is this good out should I take out some tetras?

In the tank you mentioned (48x12x18 - 55G) I would happily go with 6x Angels, 3 shoals of tetras, up them to 10-12 and check compatabilities of the tetras (some nip, some will be too small etc), up the cories, you have the space for them and they will appreciate the numbers say, 15 of them? even after all that, you should be able to have spare capacity. Obv this assumes that you invest in a suitable filter

A dummy list would be as such:
6 Angels
12 Rummy Nose Tetras
12 Black Widow Tetras (unsure of their sitability, so check that)
12 Cardinal Tetras
15 Panda Cories

maybe swap out one group of tetras for something surface dwelling to spread the tank out a bit...

 

[nikkifro8994]

What are some surface dwellers? Don't angles eat cardinals and neons?

 

[Mcbenthy]

What are some surface dwellers? Don't angles eat cardinals and neons?

Hatchet fish are the typical oddity amazonian surface dwellers, but they will jump, so you need a cover.

Angels will eat smaller neons, but cardinals are larger and are often considered to be too big for the angels to nom

that said, there are literally hundreds of suitable tetra's to pick from, cardinals are just an example of a narrow bodied tetra/charachin. Black widows are a different body shape that Angels can't eat, the reason neons are eadible in an Angels eyes are due to their streamlined shape making them go down oh-so-easy

 

[Twinklecaz]

Would any of you ever keep a single Angel? Just seems to me it's a good way to avoid agression and not have to worry about the whole "Getting 6, waiting for a pair and then rehoming the other 4" thing which I know isn't something I could do.

 

[Mcbenthy]

Would any of you ever keep a single Angel? Just seems to me it's a good way to avoid agression and not have to worry about the whole "Getting 6, waiting for a pair and then rehoming the other 4" thing which I know isn't something I could do.

It has been suggested to me, but they are fairly communal fish. They will exist perfectly well as a loner, but as to whether they are happiest... I don't rightly know.

I again want to state that all I have posted so far is based off my research into the tank I am currently setting up, NOT firsthand experiance, so as always, YMMV and DYOR

 

[parker313]

Rather than a single angel, you could get 2. There is less likely to be territory disputes if there isn't a pair fighting everyone else.

I have platies with my angels right now, with the intention that some of the fry become food for the angels, but I know that would appall some people. Cardinal tetras get bigger than neons if you like the way they look. Definitely stay away from serpae tetras or tiger barbs as they are notorious fin nippers. Rosy barbs are also kind of hit or miss about nippiness.

 

[nikkifro8994]

2 angels
24 tetras-3 shoals, 8 each
5 panda corys
Is this good out should I take out some tetras?

In the tank you mentioned (48x12x18 - 55G)

A dummy list would be as such:
6 Angels
12 Rummy Nose Tetras
12 Black Widow Tetras (unsure of their sitability, so check that)
12 Cardinal Tetras
15 Panda Cories

maybe swap out one group of tetras for something surface dwelling to spread the tank out a bit...

##150###.com says this would overstock my tank. I will have a 70 gallon filter on the tank. Is this going to be ok? Which fish should I add when? Tetras then corries then angels? And 3-4 at a time? Or 6 at a time? This is my first tank bigger than 10 gallons

 

[onidrase]

2 angels
24 tetras-3 shoals, 8 each
5 panda corys
Is this good out should I take out some tetras?

In the tank you mentioned (48x12x18 - 55G)

A dummy list would be as such:
6 Angels
12 Rummy Nose Tetras
12 Black Widow Tetras (unsure of their sitability, so check that)
12 Cardinal Tetras
15 Panda Cories

maybe swap out one group of tetras for something surface dwelling to spread the tank out a bit...

##150###.com says this would overstock my tank. I will have a 70 gallon filter on the tank. Is this going to be ok? Which fish should I add when? Tetras then corries then angels? And 3-4 at a time? Or 6 at a time? This is my first tank bigger than 10 gallons

stalk calculators preacx total bullcrap. Txat stockinx list is fine. Dont listen to txe calculators, txeyre just about as accurate as txe 1 fisx per xallon rule.

 

[nikkifro8994]

It just seems like a lot of fish. Then again, my biggest tank is 10 gallons with 11 fish in it. Could I cut down on the cories and put in a large mystery snail? my lfs sells some that are about the size of a baseball.

 

[onidrase]

It just seems like a lot of fish. Then again, my biggest tank is 10 gallons with 11 fish in it. Could I cut down on the cories and put in a large mystery snail? my lfs sells some that are about the size of a baseball.

Txats a pretty #41#### bix snail, but you sxouldnt need to cut out any fisx to fit one in. txey dont xave mucx of a bioload and txeyre xenerally ixnored.

it also may seem like a lot of fisx, but cardinals, rummy nose tetras, and panda cories all stay pretty small. You actually may xave a little wixxle to fit more fisx in witx txe xiven stock.

 

[Twinklecaz]

Rather than a single angel, you could get 2. There is less likely to be territory disputes if there isn't a pair fighting everyone else.

You think it would be better to get 2 angels than 1? What happens if they grow up and are 2 males though, wouldn't they fight? Or if they do turn out to be a pair - wouldn't they be more agressive during breeding?

Sorry for all the Qs but angles are my favourite fish so I'm trying to learn as much about them as I can (not that I can get any right now).

 

[onidrase]

Rather than a single angel, you could get 2. There is less likely to be territory disputes if there isn't a pair fighting everyone else.

You think it would be better to get 2 angels than 1? What happens if they grow up and are 2 males though, wouldn't they fight? Or if they do turn out to be a pair - wouldn't they be more agressive during breeding?

Sorry for all the Qs but angles are my favourite fish so I'm trying to learn as much about them as I can (not that I can get any right now).

4 feet of tank space would xive txem plenty of room to take txeir own parts of txe tank and not really care about eacxotxer if txeyre not a breedinx pair

 

[thereverendturtle]

Ok, I'm setting up a 5', 100 gallon for 8 angels. The other fish are going to include 20 black phantoms, 20 emperor tetras, 6 bn plecos, 12 dwarf cichlids 3 types groups of four and have room for lots more.

 

[Mcbenthy]

Rather than a single angel, you could get 2. There is less likely to be territory disputes if there isn't a pair fighting everyone else.

You think it would be better to get 2 angels than 1? What happens if they grow up and are 2 males though, wouldn't they fight? Or if they do turn out to be a pair - wouldn't they be more agressive during breeding?

Sorry for all the Qs but angles are my favourite fish so I'm trying to learn as much about them as I can (not that I can get any right now).

The usual method is to either buy a pair that are already bonded, or to buy 6+ juvis and let them grow out (the odds of getting a male + female out of 6 fish is ~95%), and then re-home the other 4 (or buy a bigger tank )

Rather than a single angel, you could get 2. There is less likely to be territory disputes if there isn't a pair fighting everyone else.

You think it would be better to get 2 angels than 1? What happens if they grow up and are 2 males though, wouldn't they fight? Or if they do turn out to be a pair - wouldn't they be more agressive during breeding?

Sorry for all the Qs but angles are my favourite fish so I'm trying to learn as much about them as I can (not that I can get any right now).

4 feet of tank space would xive txem plenty of room to take txeir own parts of txe tank and not really care about eacxotxer if txeyre not a breedinx pair

I would avoid this, if they are 2 males, they will get territorial and they will fight, if you have 4ft, then get 6 rather than getting 2 fish that may well fight continuously.